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Jan 31, 2013 10:43

I recently saw Django Unchained (capsule review - brilliant with a few flaws, moments where the acting blends with the writing blends with the setting so well it is like a pane of glass) and one thing that came to me several days later was the idea of the Tarantino Villain Speech ( Read more... )

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lhn January 31 2013, 20:11:45 UTC
One thing that annoys me about the Superman monologue is how many people seem to take it at face value. Which as you note, makes zero sense: why would someone with Bill's stated opinion of humanity be Superman? "Everyone else is stupid, cowardly, and weak" is, of course, a villain's motivation, not a hero's.

(It's probably #2 on my list of "interesting pop culture riffs on Superman that have been badly overused and misapplied". #1 is, of course, "Man of Steel, Woman of Kleenex".)

Is there a villain monologue in Pulp Fiction? There's Jules' Bible (mis)quote, but he disavows it himself by the end, and he's not the central villain of the piece in any case.

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luagha January 31 2013, 21:08:47 UTC
Who's the villain in Pulp Fiction? It doesn't exactly have one.

Characters have discussions of their unrelated opinions as a means of fleshing themselves out, but I don't recall someone exhibiting a blatantly wrong opinion on an unrelated topic. The pawn-store bondage rapists don't exactly have time.

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banner February 1 2013, 03:31:49 UTC
Pulp fiction is basically two 'fairy' or 'cautionary' tales that overlap.
The first lesson is that if you give the watch away, you die. If you keep it, you live.
The second lesson is that if you witness a miracle and deny it, you lose it (those who denied it all died, and by being shot), if you accept it, you live. But of course accepting it means you have to change you life.

The speech that samuel jackson makes is basically the 'villian' speech, only it's been turned on its head. He's explaining it and explaining why it is wrong.

As for Jackie Brown, doesn't he give it when he's walking around turning off the lights? But then again who IS the real villain of that movie? Him or Jackie Brown...

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princeofcairo February 1 2013, 05:31:55 UTC
The Villain Speech in Inglorious Basterds is at the very beginning, when Hans Landa is explaining Jews to the French farmer.

The Villain Song (the "villain vamp," as they call it in Disney) is important because it lets the composer put a song in the musical that can be in a different key/meter/tone/idiom than all the other songs. That's why (and because it usually gets to be bold and loud) it so often seems to be the best song in the musical.

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flit February 1 2013, 07:35:04 UTC
I can't recall which movie it was where I spotted this as a Tarantino Thing; it was one of the lesser ones so the monologue seemed to go on and on, though. So yes, it is a thing! Bill's was good, I thought, while also making me eagerly anticipate his comeuppance.

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