Intelligent Design is neither; discuss.

Nov 09, 2005 11:43


So, hooray once again for the Kansas State School Board. They are to be applauded for boldly flying in the face of accepted science by allowing the teaching of Intelligent Design and redefining science. I kid you not:
... the board rewrote the definition of science, so that it is no longer limited to the search for natural explanations of phenomena.

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codymc November 9 2005, 18:00:38 UTC
or we could all just dress as pirates! (the only proper way to greet The Noodly One)

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lyricsboy November 9 2005, 18:04:23 UTC
good point! we already have the required attire...

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codymc November 9 2005, 18:08:06 UTC
I found brochures we can hand out

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lyricsboy November 9 2005, 20:26:40 UTC
Brochures? Sure, bro!

Sorry, that was the best I could come up with.

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lyricsboy November 9 2005, 18:05:32 UTC
A flawed step in the right direction? Color me confused. Would that not be just as bad as a step in reverse?

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lyricsboy November 9 2005, 18:10:52 UTC
The beautiful thing about things that do not exist is that they can often be created. We just need to be creative. It's so simple, and yet so difficult!

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lyricsboy November 9 2005, 18:55:44 UTC
It must be that such a string-pulling force has an age-old vendetta against Gamera. Perhaps his favorite friend-to-children was actually Gigantor, and he disliked the competition and subsequent greater popularity that Gamera represented. That would be one possible explanation of the lack of sweaters. Ooh! Or maybe, there was once a prototype Gamera sweater, but the string-puller hated it and started pulling strings, causing the whole thing to unravel. Yeah.

Also, I want to go to Express for Men. Is it worth it, or did you already get all the good stuff?

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ID secretlyaok November 9 2005, 23:09:19 UTC
What the fuck ever. I lump Intelligent Design in with the entire class of theories that argues, in essence, "Why does everything work so well if someone wasn't behind the wheel?"

a) It's the height of arrogance (i.e., why assume everything we see is so very complex and orderly, simply because we either can't comprehend it and have no other frame of reference?).

b) That's putting the cart before the horse. "Hey, there are wildfires in California this year. They're unstoppable, burning everything in their path. They work perfectly. Someone must have done this on purpose." The effect (the wildfires) aren't the cause of their cause (dry spells, lots of dead trees). That's ludicrous. And, if you'll allow me some word association, hip hop didn't come about so that Ludacris could make cheddar. It just looks that way to him.

Why would a system (say, our planet) intentionally create something (say, humans) that ran a huge risk of destroying it? And even if it did, would you call that intelligent?

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Re: ID secretlyaok November 9 2005, 23:14:25 UTC
Also, if you want to argue for God and all that, Borges is much more graceful.

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Re: ID lyricsboy November 10 2005, 05:38:44 UTC
That's nice and poetic and what-not, but how can one justify the existence of God based on the fact that Borges can't count imaginary birds fast enough? ;) I wonder if the whole text of the Maker is translated. Ah, indeed it is.

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Re: ID secretlyaok November 10 2005, 16:45:46 UTC
Yeah, it's not a very strong proof (existence requires both perception and comprehension?), but it's gorgeous. I'll take "pretty" over "correct" any day. It just popped into my head as being logically similar to an ID argument.

By the way, this is the one you want. Newish translation by Andrew Hurley. If you read any of Borges's fiction, you'll just end up reading it all anyway.

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