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apiphile December 1 2007, 23:12:10 UTC
I think the problem is that Islam did go through a period of enlightenment and, like certain areas of the Christian religion would like to, then swung around into moral absolutism and so on, on the back of political thinking rather than religious. Some time in the 70s or 80s,I believe.

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m0rbid_princess December 2 2007, 00:03:59 UTC
Fair point. That'll be around when Bin Laden was the CIA's 'secret weapon' n in Afghanistan - he might have been anti-west but GODDAMNIT he was no Commie and, by resisting the Soviets, automatically on the side of the Angels ( ... )

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flavius_m December 2 2007, 03:14:23 UTC
ncidentally, I am awaiting with barely suppressed anticipation the dawning of the next age, after this one, which should be very liberated indeed. I only hope I am still young enough to enjoy it when it rolls around :)

I hope you're right. I'm not as optimistic :/

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m0rbid_princess December 3 2007, 03:54:37 UTC
Perhaps - From my point of view, I look around at the general attitude of 18 - 30 YOs, myself included, and see a general discomfort with the state of affairs as it stands - I personally think all generations react negatively to the societal norms they are exposed to in their youth, as they consciously or unconsciously see these as the reasons for all that is wrong with the world.

Consequently, when some of these same individuals go on to shape society, be it through artistic, political or cultural means, these unconscious biases come into play - thus come the cycles.

I can't see anyone growing up in the current climate of fear and control from Governments advocating anything but the most stringent liberalism when they are in the metaphorical driving seat :)

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m0rbid_princess December 2 2007, 20:12:52 UTC
Thanks :)

Certain subjects tend to get me going and this was one of them, I think - I'm glad it was appreciated.

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