Crohn's/Johne's

Sep 13, 2008 12:56

http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:kghJsTyJaAIJ:www.cbc.ca/national/blog/video/healtheducation/cattle_and_crohns_connection.html+crohn%27s+and+use+of+tap+water&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=6&gl=ca

FINALLY THE CANADIAN MEDIA IS PICKING UP ON THIS?!?!?!?!

Do you remember me telling you guys about this? I read a huge report on it and how the gov't is helping the milk producers cover it up in North America because it would cripple the industry and affect our whole economy. The report was from the 1990s. It sounds like a conspiracy theory, but if you actually read the facts and think about it, it makes sense. It would be a huge expense for gov't and the farmers, it would put a scare into the public and their consumption would drop dramatically, it would kill exports probably even worse than the mad cow thing did (now we have mad cow and rampant johne's!?). This disease is harder to test for, prevent, and remove from the food chain. It would take YEARS before they had it under control. I've read estimates that it could take a decade or so. Long enough that people would get used to their new less/no beef/dairy diets. And north americans eat more dairy than nearly any other population in the world, and probably more beef too. (Interesting how we also have the highest rates of Crohn's disease, and how countries that consume the least beef and dairy have next to no Crohn's disease). The dairy/beef industries are cornerstones of our economy and for them to take another major hit would really damage the whole country. So of course the gov't doesn't want us to hear a peep about this until it has been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt. And they won't rush any medical researchers to prove it either. Last time I checked, the CCFC had funded only 2 very small scale research projects looking for a connection with Crohn's. And these projects were not using the latest methods to look for this very sneaky bacteria, so of course they didn't find any.

I didn't notice the article talk about how hard it is to find the bacteria when they test the cow, meat, dairy, etc. But what I read said that up until recently there was no reliable way to test for it. I can't remember all of the details, but the bacteria is nearly impossible to see the normal way. It believe its because it actually gets INTO the cells of the host so it hides in there. When they look the infected stuff at it under a microscope all they see is the cells of the stuff, not the bacteria cells that are hiding within. It's only in the last maybe 10 years or less that they found a way to test for the bacteria more reliably, and even it doesn't always catch it. They pull DNA from the host cell, and sometimes when its an infected cell they will get lucky and extract DNA from the bacteria cell instead, and recognize it. But of course sometimes they can miss the bacteria DNA when they extract it even though the cell is infected. Just hit the wrong section of the cell and you get normal DNA instead.

I didn't notice the article talking about how sure other countries are about the connection. Many of the worlds most medically and socially advanced countries (Sweden, the UK, etc) have done extensive research (and of course implemented some major regulations to get it under control. The researchers in these countries aren't 100% sure about the connection and how it works, but they are sure that Johne's is a major contributing factor. And no matter what they are sure that it is very unhealthy for anything to be consuming meat diseased with Johne's. They take it very seriously. Here, many researchers probably haven't even heard of it and most blow it off based on antiquated north american research. The more open minded ones are just starting to admit there may a be a connection. In this era of the 'global village', it is ridiculous to think that researchers in different countries could be ignoring each other's research so completely. I mean, if I found foreign research on this on the net, how the heck could researchers dedicating their lives to the subject miss it? Or could it be that they know about this research and are just arrogant enough to think that they are that much more advanced than the researchers in these other very well developed countries?

Also, they didn't mention how this bacteria can live through ridiculous conditions, cold, heat, etc etc. It can live in groundwater for at least a year, and be very hard to detect. Also, in order to kill all of the bacteria in the pasturization process, they would have to heat the water to a higher temperature and for something like 3 times as long as they do now. But that level of pasturization changes the taste and texture of the milk. Apparently its pretty gross. The government in both the US and Canada have been decreasing pasturization requirements for years. So here is the problem. Even in countries like the UK, who have this disease under control, it's not through pasteurization. It's through careful regulations of the livestock that produce the food. It was a huge effort, and a huge cost to the gov't and the farms, but they managed to get to a point where their livestock don't have the disease at all. They aren't even carriers. It was easier for them than it would be for us because of the small size of their country and farms. But it's possible.

This is all because of our commercial consumer driven economy. Back when farmers had small herds and treat their animals like a commodity as much, it was harder for this disease to spread. Cows often spent their whole lives on one farm and so they didnt get a chance to contract diseases from other cows. They also weren't so cramped in. And of course an old school farmer probably wouldn't have ever let a cow so obviously diseased live or enter the food chain once it started showing symptoms. And the waste from the farms was managable. Nature could handle it. And milk was distributed through smaller companies, sometimes even straight from farm to your door. Now it is put in giant vats, delivered to a factory where its combined with milk from other farms in giant vats, and there is NO WAY that some of the cows that contributed milk to each vat at the factory didn't have johne's.

Some farmers still don't even know what Johne's is. They haven't even heard of it.

This news bit covered most of the stuff that I learned about it, but downplayed how seriously other countries are taking it. But I'm still really impressed!!!! I hope the media doesn't let this die until we get some real answers and results!!!
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