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[maewitch]

So if you're not aware of the issues surrounding a particular incident at Pantheacon, this should get you up to speed: http://wildhunt.org/blog/2011/03/transgender-inclusion-issue-intensifies.htmlRead more... )

Comments

[sihaya09]

I knew that comment was you when I read it

[maewitch]

I knew that comment was you when I read it.

Bwah?

Personally, I am cool with lived-experience-specific rituals. I don't, however, think that it's useful to limit the participants in those rituals to people who have all had the same exact experience, though, at least when it comes to the cisgender/transgender issue. Basically: womens' circles are cool. Ciswomen becoming the arbiter of who is "woman enough" is totally uncool. A woman is a woman is a woman, the end.In terms of defining what a woman, I agree with you 100

[sihaya09]

Idk, the wording & tone just seemed like you. I figured you were the specific Maggie that wrote the comment.

[maewitch]

Er...not criticize themselves so much as take in some of the critical feedback that has been raised, and apply it to their own understanding.

[alicia_stardust]

Ugh, I was just reading about this one. It seems there have been various wildfires in the pagan communities lately. =/

[elfwreck]

they are a woman-born-woman tradition only

So, when the scientists get their details sorted out and can show, in plain language and with simple diagrams, how trans people were born into the gender they claim, the Dianic tradition will accept them? Or are they going by XX-only?

As genotyping becomes cheaper & more common, we'll know who's XXY or XXX or even XY with AIS; will they then be excluded from Dianic circles

[maewitch]

I was going to respond to some specifics you mentioned, but found myself quoting pretty much everything. So: YES TO ALL OF IT.

[sihaya09]

This is a really great response.