this will be a long one so if you don't have time to read, come back later..

[stereochild_]

i would like to share my views on a topic that is in the application... my views have somewhat changed since i have joined the community, and i want to share my thoughts, because how else would i utilize this community?? by talking about football?? (i still can't get over the fact that you boys attempted to temporarily transform the community into

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[xbyrdx]

I agree with you that file sharing isn't bad and is only made to look bad by the labels who lose out. I knew this from past experiences with bands and labels who wanted to milk us for money.

When it comes to large labels, they don't really need the money. When it comes to smaller labels, they don't need the money so bad, but really it can hurt them. However the up side is that this way their music gets better dispersement and advertising which will eventually make it a successful label (hopefully)

The football thing was funny btw. I hate football. I hate sports. I love music. I love german pornography. So next time i guess we'll either make it about music or german porn.

[stereochild_]

haha, german porn.

[localpunk]

ok here's where I stand. I mostly only support small independent labels and as such I don't download music through file-sharing programs. I have no problem with people who do that however because I understand where they're coming from. Everyone knows that CD's are cheaper to produce than tapes and records, but for some reason they seem to have the highest price tag. Going along with this not only od CD's have the highest price tag, but it's disproportionately high, and that's why big labels need to shut up. You don't see bridge 9 complaining about file sharing. Maybe that's because they charge reasonable prices, I dunno, fuck it, thanks for reading.

[thebenreilly]

from what i understand independant labels are owned by the larger labels and they basically keep it unspoken so that records will continue to sell to those people who only support indie labels. if you start looking around a little you can trace most indie labels back up to where they start but you have to look at every band on the label and any release they have done. there are very few indie labels out there that are not connected to anything. i THINK bridge 9 might be one of those but i don't know that much about them.

[thebenreilly]

my roomate works for universal music. i'm sure you know the label. and i've had this argument with him hundreds of times because people are getting laid off at his office. he blames me in part because i download all kinds of artists off the internet. in order to download the music someone must first willingly upload it to a server or put a program on their computer that allows other computers to find it, which is basically making a giant mix cd/tape for someone and giving it to them.

and in fact some of the newer bands that are coming out now, i've already gotten their first and even second cd. when bands under the universal label or one of it's baby labels comes out with a new cd if i like the music he typically gets it for me. so why blame me when he gets me these things for free as well?

[stereochild_]

i thought it was the listeners, not the artists/labels that put the music on there... because some well-known artists had music on kazaa but they paid for their music to sound distorted on there so people would have to buy their albums.... if they are paying to have it taken off the file sharing programs, why would they upload their music?? that just wouldn't make sense to me... i agree with what you are getting at, but that comment, i disagreed with..... if i misunderstood, please let me know.

[saveusall]

My teacher had this whole discussion today about how filesharing is the same as stealing from a store. I disagree, and thought her whole point was based on opinions of someone who didn't understand how the industry worked.
I read somewhere along time ago that most of the money bands made was from their merch and tour, so I didn't see what the big deal was about filesharing.
Filesharing helps small bands get their names out, so that maybe people would want to come to their shows. Big bands like Metallica have nothing to loose from filesharing.
I'm only 15, so most of my opinions are shaped by other people's opinions, but that is how I see this.
yeh...

[shitbomb]

ok. i think personally that downloading music is alright.. reason being.. major labels already have enough money. the smaller ones do not. and the mainstream labels are the ones that are doing the bitching because they're losing out on their money... now.., this whole thing started because the mainstream "bands" started to bitch about the situation. adn thats all you heard. now if you're a mainstream band, more than likely you already have more money than you know what to do with... but me not taking fancy to mainstream music does not help me take sides with them. take into consideration that the underground scene is many times bigger than the mainstream scene will ever be. but you hear really nothing from them. thats because the real money making is in mainstream music. but the underground scene, "the bands", most of them do not like the free downloading. reason being, because if you're doing the band for a living its much harder to make money if you're an underground band. because of less publicity etc.. yada yada yada.