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[magdalyna]

So I didn't think I'd talk about Mr. Brendon-gate, but apparently I am.

Not cutting, because your layouts will be fine tomorrow(1/9/08) morning.

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I was taling to saline_joy about this, and some of this is taken from a comment thread we had

Comments

[magdalyna]

If there are Scene Queens, then there must be Scene Kings to go with them. By this I mean theres a corallary to the girls.

Calling her out in an interview after stalking/splooging over her already famous self is just an interesting little dig to his personality - he unlike William, doesn't acknowledge he can be a prick, or Gabe's nasty guy.

For Pete's, its beyond tacky and into gauche.

Paramore is aparetnly Christian rock, by the band's own admission. A host of bands I love have Xtian roots, but none handle it as ... (oddly? smarmy? distatsefully?) as they do- redemption, turning the other cheek, etc. is a huge part of what Jesus was talking about. he's supposed to have hung out with fishermen, prostitutes and social/pyhsical lepers. He was a radical hippie in the original sense of it.

Thats not what i hear from them at all. D:

But going to something that others like warmingweather have brought up, about artistic subjectivity: music critics rag on bandom b/c they are "derritive of part emo bands" and so fans talk about how art is personal

[magdalyna]

probably because most scene kings will be taken seriously once they start a band

Which is part of the main issue.

I'm fine with Jesus. I'm also fine with Buddha and Ra and Zeus and Muhammad and Moses.

But Paramore is ... acidic about it in a way I can't condone.

[decor_noctis]

I just want to know if it's been proved that they were even together before laying into Brendon. I don't think what she says can be taken without a pinch of salt, if not a whole shaker. And I'm not just siding with Brendon as a fellow guy here. If it is in fact true, then he has acted like a complete douche and hopefully will get put straight by someone and learn from this whole mess. I just don't know how much faith I would put in her, which is why I haven't made comment about Brendon's alleged behaviour yet.

[magdalyna]

For me, this isn't about Brendon's behavior specifically(though with the other people I have named, so with the yes), but rather an example of a type of bahvior that I do not like.

Whether all of it did or did not happen doesn't forgive the actions he was described as doing, not that I excuse her either.

She, if its true, enabled said uber toolish bahavior to happen by not standing up for herself and putting it on the internet.

I agree that truthfulness should be proven, but I'm not concerned with that in this instance, since its gross and shitty in any situation.

[hikarinotabi]

I'm afraid I missed this whole business, though it's already angering me, from what you said... Could I please be filled in?

[magdalyna]

http://community.livejournal.com/fbr_trash/679774.html?thread=19751262

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So i tried to summarise it, but it hurt my brain. The post talks about kinky sex, if you think facials and anal sex and threesomes are kinky. The post is hard to explain.

[hikarinotabi]

O_O

Holy crap. Now I completely understand. I've always had the same worries about people learning about sex from porn, but if that stuff's true, that is just beyond asshole.

I don't have enough mental energy to contribute anything beyond what you've already said, but I definitely agree with you. Just. >< What happened to actually talking? I tell everyone I know about the importance of actually communicating with one's partner, but still. How...? Oh, my poor brain. So much abuse, it takes.

[magdalyna]

At this point I'm just *hands* about the whole thing.

abstinence only sex ed + liberally porn saturated global world + X + lazy/cowardly/crappy parenting = crap like this.
Where X could be any number of things like (fucked in the head anyway)

Seriously, my poor brain. Our poor brains. Ugggh.

[warmingweather]

I agree! Thanks for write up your thoughts; they were very interesting to read. Ryan and Hayley's lyrics make me very upset- it's one of the reasons that I never listen to Fever anymore. Have you ever seen live video of "Lying?" Thousands of young girls gleefully screaming the word "whore" along with Brendon makes me so uncomfortable and angry.

[magdalyna]

I think Ryan has a gift for string words together, which I admire as a trait to a large degree, but the way he weilds that talent just loses me. "Lying" is actually very tame in comparison to the other songs, "Tacks" and "Build God" just off the top of my head.

[magdalyna]

http://community.livejournal.com/fbr_trash/679774.html?thread=19751262

As I said to hikarinotabi , I can't summarise it b/c it hurts my brain, but you should go read it. Warning for graphic mentions of 3somes, facials, and anal sex.