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The False Promise of Vicarious Redemption chron_job March 27 2009, 19:34:33 UTC
Hey there.. just popping in from atheism

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Re: The False Promise of Vicarious Redemption moorephotos March 28 2009, 07:02:18 UTC
Does the ax raise itself above him who swings it,
or the saw boast against him who uses it?
As if a rod were to wield him who lifts it up,
or a club brandish him who is not wood!

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Re: The False Promise of Vicarious Redemption chron_job March 29 2009, 02:18:59 UTC
Ah. Isaiah. But... Why do you think a bible quote would be authoritative for me? Why should you expect this to convince me? What do YOU think? And why?

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Re: The False Promise of Vicarious Redemption magicalweasal March 29 2009, 05:24:01 UTC
I don't expect it to convince you. But since you brought this to my journal, I'm willing to be more forthfront with what I think.

A lot of people, including some Christians, have a problem when you talk about freewill. The idea of some "God", whoever he is, controlling things, really rubs people the wrong way.

But when you think about it, what kind of Creator that was/is completely and totally other and beyond his creation would let Him/her/itself be influenced by what it wants?

Or, to put it another way, when you pick up a pen to write with it, does it grab you and put your nose to the paper?

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