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Feb 23, 2011 12:21

[Public | Audio]I once was told by a man that love was like magic. This is the closest that I've seen his assessment to be true, despite my arguments to him at the time. A science that I don't understand. An uncontrolled pursuit of perspective mates and forming of social bonds that would otherwise be unthinkable, but yet there was an obligation ( Read more... )

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timesbureaucrat February 23 2011, 21:23:51 UTC
Not all of us are bound by our instincts or DNA. The Time Lords took control of both aeons ago, they do not control us.

A lack of compassion and a single-minded focus towards a goal doesn't necessarily imply that the Admiral is an AI. The Admiral could just as easily be an entity who doesn't care about warden or inmate frustrations because he has an entirely different morality or set of values. There are plenty of powerful aliens in the universe who would singly-mindedly torture lesser beings while thinking that it was doing them a favour. Come to think of it, there are Time Lords like that, too.

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majorum_pride February 23 2011, 21:36:29 UTC
An interesting theory, though that still isn't to say that the entity isn't also incorporated into the ship. That the vessel isn't a part of him. And he is typically quite kind to the TARDIS during floods.

And of course you are. Refusing to acknowledge the ancestry that created you doesn't free you from its binds, it simply gives you no grounds to refuse the instincts that you can't explain within yourself. If you were truly free, you'd have no need to compete or perception of ambition.

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timesbureaucrat February 23 2011, 21:57:22 UTC
Yes, it's possible. It's also possible that the ship is alive without being a programmed AI. [Now Narvin is desperately curious to know if any of the TARDISes have ever been affected by floods. And if they haven't, why not, since Data, the T-X, and the EMH have all been affected.]

Competition and ambition are social as much as they are biological. I'm not saying Time Lords don't have a biological foundation, or that we lack instincts entirely, simply that they are not mysterious and are totally under our conscious control. [Lies lies lies. Repression =/= control.]

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I am so sorry for what's about to happen. majorum_pride February 23 2011, 22:11:11 UTC
[He sees through your awesome repression, Narvin. And he's going to move in like a predator for the kill.] And the reason for social developments is an extension biological instincts that have been in place since ancient times, then entire basis of civilization and progressive growth being based in the desire to surpass others of your kind. To place yourself at the head of an order, to be a protector, to be approved by a mate in a display of fierce sexual competition. Your people reproduce through genetic engineering, do they not? [This is an item of particular interest to him.] But you retain your genitalia and your capacity to use it ( ... )

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Private last_kodiak February 23 2011, 23:08:15 UTC
You'll have to be more specific. That's three hundred years of history.

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[Private] majorum_pride February 23 2011, 23:46:01 UTC
Dylan Hunt. What became of Dylan Hunt?

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[Private] last_kodiak February 23 2011, 23:51:05 UTC
Your captain? What makes you think I know about him?

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[Private] majorum_pride February 23 2011, 23:56:39 UTC
At the moment, because your first response wasn't confusion relating to him. Did he contribute to the Nietzchean dissent?

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Private thegooddrjones February 23 2011, 23:35:41 UTC
I believe love, real love is like magic.

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[Private] majorum_pride February 23 2011, 23:45:23 UTC
The greatest fault with believing that love is like magic, is when it doesn't work out the way that it should those involved are invariably left feeling wanting and never understanding why. You can't become settled into the normalcy and comfort of perceived love. A good husband must always make his wife know that in his eyes she's superior, and willing to maintain himself for her.

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[Private] thegooddrjones February 24 2011, 01:30:42 UTC
I think we're speaking of a cultural difference here.

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[Private] majorum_pride February 24 2011, 01:32:17 UTC
My captain used to say things like that. We debated on it frequently. [He sounds a touch, just a little bit, sad.]

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strangehstorian February 24 2011, 02:15:20 UTC
Wardens have seen the Admiral, though. He's an extra-dimensional being, from what I perceived...

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majorum_pride February 24 2011, 02:16:43 UTC
You can see an avatar, too. The ship itself is extra-dimensional, why should his avatar be so limited if that is the case?

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strangehstorian February 24 2011, 02:33:11 UTC
You're proposing that the ship is a god, rather than the tool of one. Interesting. Why wouldn't it be the other way around?

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majorum_pride February 24 2011, 02:45:49 UTC
[He almost argues with the concept of it being a god. But he leaves it at that.] I'm used to ships having their own personalities and representative figures. They can function independently in times of distress thanks to these figureheads. They are both the figurehead, and the ship. They can exist independently, but they are meant to function together. They are a way to communicate with the ship, a way for the ship to maintain itself, and a way for the ship to present itself to us in physical anthropomorphic form.

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majorum_pride February 24 2011, 02:32:26 UTC
The Admiral? None really. He simply seemed affected by the recent flood, and for a being supposedly free of corporeal form that was an interesting effect. I supposed he must be attached to something.

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majorum_pride February 24 2011, 02:37:53 UTC
I told him it was only science that he didn't understand. His reasons for loving his fiancee.

It will always confuse me why understanding something about yourself or the way your body works should rob you of its pleasure.

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