Being loyal: does it go both ways?

Jan 21, 2009 16:44



Seems that after the whole summer Real Madrid/Ronaldo saga, the loyalty mark has been overused. If the player is insistant on moving out of the club, then he is being a traitor (for a lack of a better word), and he can never ever gain the same supporters back. For a handful of games, Ronaldo wasn't cheered on; he was constantly abused by the fans ( ( Read more... )

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pourxxtoujours January 22 2009, 01:21:14 UTC
but its also true that players make the club; it is with their talent that the club wins things. i definitely think that's true. the players make the club. if ronaldo left man utd, i don't think i'd have the same feelings towards manchester united as i do now (even though that's horrible of me to say, i know!). i don't have "allegiances" perse to clubs because i'm from the us. all of the clubs i support are clubs that have earned my loyalty. which is why people do a double take when i tell them i support both liverpool AND manchester united. what can i say, i love them both so much. but if someone was holding a gun to my head, i'd choose liverpool :D ( ... )

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makemeeperfect January 22 2009, 01:27:33 UTC
oh yeah! i used to be there a long time ago, and then i don't know, i guess i never logged back on. but i was a member there a long time ago. :)

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ytumamatb January 22 2009, 03:35:09 UTC
'how loyal is football today?' as loyal as players are willing to make it.
Ronaldo is not such an unloyal case, it just sounds so much bc he's hot n sells; but he's not an angel either. the lad helped us like hell and he's worth every cent of our money, but that's his job, if he had not, we'd have already sold him. true, FCs r not usually... fair with their players, they seek for their monetary
convenience, but real players make the difference; as Beckham, taking ur example, they sold him for little, he's now a football spectrum, but he said (and i'd bet my left hand he'd always say) he'll b willing to go back to United if summoned; there u go, pure loyalty, regardless of the decision take by the dirigents, those r persons, not THE club, the club's a whole ideology, almost like a party, but even more pure.
players who r worth shite they make the beautiful game be worth its name, and as they say in South America, the ball does not get dirty.
have fuckies *fuckies*

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pourxxtoujours January 22 2009, 18:30:25 UTC
i agree :)

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ytumamatb January 22 2009, 20:47:26 UTC
:D
have fuckies *fuckies*

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makemeeperfect January 22 2009, 23:25:29 UTC
Hm, I definately understand you losing respect for Ronaldo but, you also say that United are treating Tevez in an unfair way, no? So how does it (being loyal, I mean) justify United and not Ronaldo?

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petarrr January 22 2009, 11:58:02 UTC
Players are employees of the clubs, it is usually as simple as that. The club owes the fans a certain degree of loyalty and the fans owe them the same. And at the end of the day you have to realise that it is upsetting to people who spend ever cent of their money and every minute of their life consumed by something, only to see the people they worship betray them.

No player is ever bigger than the club and they should never expect to be. They don't win titles or cups, the team does. (The team that was there long before they came and will be there long after they leave.)

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makemeeperfect January 22 2009, 23:26:37 UTC
So the club can just sell a player as they wish eventhough they show every sign that they want to stay with the club, and that they are 100% dedicated?

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petarrr January 23 2009, 10:32:50 UTC
Yes. Because if that were ever to happen it would be in the best interest of the club and therefore the fans.

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makemeeperfect January 23 2009, 23:41:59 UTC
I see what you are saying.

How does getting rid of a player who shows dedication an heart while calling the another player a "traitor" for hinting that he wanted to leave equal out?

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