Of books, pitfalls, recommendations and an age-old addiction to SF&F

Aug 02, 2010 21:15

Have you ever eaten oysters? Ever had the experience where three bad ones in a row turned you off the species entirely and maybe even permanently?

General ramble about the death of my book addiction (and not, as the prologue may have suggested, a ramble about oysters) )

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tygrestick August 3 2010, 03:24:30 UTC
Have you read the Miles Vorkosigan series by Lois McMaster Bujold? Because to me, they're pretty mind-blowing. The series does have a male protagonist, but her female characters are wonderful and really prominent and important. Also Bujold neither skimps on character or world building. They're so much fun, too!

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maldoror_gw August 3 2010, 03:38:31 UTC
...Your icon is what's mind blowing :P

Yes, as a matter of fact, the first Vorkosigan book IS one of the other two books I'd read in the past ten years of drought whose name had escaped me. I did like it (I finished it, that's saying enough), though I didn't have the impetus to rush out and buy the rest. The style didn't quite hit my buttons and the female character in that one annoyed me. But that was just the first. If it gets better...maybe I need to pop back into my bookstore for volume 2 *makes a note*

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slrcosmos August 3 2010, 03:42:00 UTC
I actually prefer her Chalion series, which is fantasy. I've never been drawn to the SF part of SF&F. It starts with Curse of Chalion and I think I've read it about 4 times already, and each time I can't put it down.

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tygrestick August 3 2010, 03:58:20 UTC
Thanks!! There can never be enough llamas!

Do you remember if you read Cordelia's Honor or the Young Miles collection? People start the series either place, but I find that the series gets stronger as it goes (Young Miles is technically the second book, although it's actually three novels in one, and it gets much better even from there. :D).

And as sircosmos recced, the Chalion series is really good too!

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ext_185498 August 3 2010, 03:46:45 UTC
You might enjoy:

--Cast in Shadow, by Michelle Sagara, and sequels.

--A Fistful of Sky, by Nina Kiriki Hoffman.

--Sunshine, by Robin McKinley.

--Magic Bites, by Ilona Andrews, and sequels.

--Feed, by Mira Grant.

--Paladin of Souls, by Lois McMaster Bujold.

--The Complete Ivory (The Gate of Ivory, Two-Bit Heroes, Guilt-Edged Ivory), by Doris Egan.

--Grasp the Stars, by Jennifer Wingert.

That's all I can think of now- I hope it helps!

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skellywag August 3 2010, 12:58:14 UTC
/seconds Cast in Shadow really hard

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maldoror_gw August 3 2010, 15:27:49 UTC
Oooh *notes down list of shinies* Thanks!

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wolfco_tr August 3 2010, 21:01:52 UTC
/me totally totally backs up that Cast series rec...

Awesome series entirely.

I also want to second that Sunshine by Robin McKinley. I have whole-heartedly wished for a sequel, but alas not only has her writing quality degraded... her proclivity for sequels is non-existent (although she managed a prequel once).

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tmelange August 3 2010, 03:47:05 UTC
You can get the uncensored director's cut of Witcher at Amazon, and they just released it on Steam, so if it's sold out on Amazon, it can always be downloaded. I understand Witcher 2 is on its way...

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maldoror_gw August 3 2010, 15:27:14 UTC
I got it on Steam a couple of months back, and have already played it through twice ♥ God, what a breath of fresh air into the stuffy realm of RPG games! The Witcher, Dragon Age and to a lesser extent Mass Effect 2; it finally feels like RPG games are being made for grownups. (I put Mass Effect 2 at a lower rank than the other two on this scale only because the whole concept of 'wait until right before we die to shag because that makes it Speshul' is...somewhat unrealistic. Gameplays wise, though, it's easily as good and maybe even the better of the three.)

I have been stalking the forums of the company making Witcher 2, and so far the trailers make me want to cry at the thought of waiting until next year to get my grubby mitts on it ;_;

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tanrien August 3 2010, 03:48:31 UTC
Interesting post and thanks for the link to fictionrants - I only knew the communities about fanfiction and the one about original slash and was wondering if there were maybe different ones.

I like your analysis of why you don't read books anymore. At first I refused to read books with female main characters, because I discovered that in almost all cases I think they are written "wrong". Either there are the "standard issues", like, too Mary Sue-ish, too dependent, too stupid to be a main character, too 'obviously the author either hates or doesn't know women', and/or the books make me too angry with them (and the authors) to continue reading. So I usually avoid books with female main characters.
After that it was only a small step to the realisation that most characters act stupid and are badly written, and I simply didn't see it, because I don't get angry with male characters that fast.
I didn't stop reading books, but I buy few, maybe 10 a year, and I read even less, but instead focus more on online fiction and heavily on non-fiction and on ( ... )

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maldoror_gw August 3 2010, 21:02:31 UTC
You put into a nutshell why I stopped reading books with female leads, or even (and this is bad on my part) books written by female authors. THere's another kind of female lead that gets me spitting with rage, too. One of the three books that put me off SF&F entirely was about a female singer who gets BAMFED into another dimension. It started off okay, since she was a washed-out has-been of 40. That was great, an original female lead. But five minutes after she arrives in Dimension Wish Fullfilment, her body changes to that of a gorgeous 20-something. YARG! And THEN of course she runs into a Nasty Guy who beats the wife and wants to rape our heroine, because men are like that, right, and she puts the smackdown on him and Tells Him Off ( ... )

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cat_o_ninetails August 7 2010, 09:45:19 UTC
I emphatically second Gone-Away World - it is absolutely amazing.

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blehmeh05 August 3 2010, 03:51:38 UTC
The A Song of Ice and Fire series by George R. R. Martin. Most engaging fantasy I've ever read: rich, three-dimensional characters, lots of wonderful scheming and moral ambiguity, and a plot full of tidbits that reward the careful reader and keep you guessing. And while she's not quite the heroine of the story, there's a nine-year-old girl--Arya--who mostly fits the bill in terms of what you're looking for.

Also, since this is a bit of a delurking...hi! I'd been starting to lose faith in slash as a genre, but your writing is refreshingly original and intelligent. Thanks for making me want to rejoin the fold. :)

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tmelange August 3 2010, 03:55:23 UTC
If you're looking for a great slash fantasy story, try "Captive Prince" by freece: http://freece.livejournal.com

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blehmeh05 August 3 2010, 04:02:09 UTC
*waves hello* Thanks very much for the rec.

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darksideofstorm August 3 2010, 19:51:47 UTC
I just lost MY WHOLE DAY reading this.

Thank you. <3

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