AU Star Trek

May 18, 2009 15:02

So all this Star Trek love going on all over has me thinking ( Read more... )

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yahtzee63 May 18 2009, 22:13:04 UTC
I think it still exists in an alternate timeline. Nero split the timelines when he went into the past. Just a guess, but as valid a take on all this as any other.

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manic1066 May 18 2009, 22:25:38 UTC
It can't still exist - go from Yesterday's Enterprise - Tasha doesn't die, everything gets changed, that action in the past changes the future. In this case, Nero goes back in time, alters the past, nothing is done to stop his initial insertion - the attack on the ship George Kirk and family was on, from then on, the Starfleet and the world we knew - no longer exists. All those methodically plotted out timelines - useless. Its all changed.

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yahtzee63 May 19 2009, 00:54:30 UTC
I don't think there's any one way this stuff "works," or is supposed to work. If you find it most helpful to believe that original canon is ongoing, IMHO, you can. If you don't, you don't have to.

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manic1066 May 19 2009, 23:50:54 UTC
Can I just say I laughed when the giant spinning red ball of death showed up? It only took ONE drop to destroy Vulcan

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frahulettaes May 18 2009, 23:06:56 UTC
exactly. while making sweet love to canon, JJ Abrams has killed, with one swift stroke, everything that EVER happened in any Star Trek property. He's broken it and created a WHOLE NEW REALITY. Which they can cherry pick from "history" as "remembered" by Spock. All those worlds are still waiting to be discovered, but all the mistakes don't have to happen. I had that epiphany when Spock is making his little speech on the bridge about Nero's appearance changing everything.

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manic1066 May 19 2009, 23:51:37 UTC
The level of awesome is awesome - I've seen it like 3 times - YAY streaming vids!

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mingsmommy May 18 2009, 23:39:00 UTC
But, then, how can Spock Prime even exist in the "present"? I was happy with the split reality but now I am so confused!

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manic1066 May 19 2009, 00:17:23 UTC
Spock Prime exists in 'the present' - ie when Vulcan is destroyed and he's off wandering trying to found a new Vulcan colony. He doesn't exist in the time where he came from because he went back in time and is now in the new present. He remembers the past history because he lived it - but no one else does.

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lorena_snape May 19 2009, 01:55:56 UTC
Yep. That's what I really call canon-shafted. *shakes head*

I mean, as a movie, I will admit it was entertaining. And it was way better than working (I took the day off work so we could see the 1st showing). But I'd rather consider this movie to be AU, like people choose to write AU fics, but MY canon is still there, dammit.

*fingers in ears* La la la la la

Of course the Spock/Uhura shippers are all happy as clams. *rolls eyes*

Oh, and as for Nero going back in time and changing the future, I probably shouldn't even mention that what was really amazing was how he altered not only time, but space as well, because Delta Vega was nowhere near Vulcan!

:p

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manic1066 May 19 2009, 23:52:15 UTC
I can't believe that you actually know where Delta Vega is - that's AWESOME!

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klgrem May 19 2009, 23:48:58 UTC
Yeah. I was pretty disappointed with it. That's a lot to ask just to be able to come up with a new series...

And while I loved seeing the original Spock? You can not be two of you in the same time. It just can't happen.

Unless you're a cylon, and that's just another series all together. ;)

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manic1066 May 19 2009, 23:53:11 UTC
There are totally two Spocks in the same time - they mocked at the common convention that if two like objects occupy the same space the universe implodes

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