On Heuristic Tradeoffs

[maradydd]

My friend Jenna is quitting smoking, on which I congratulate her unreservedly. Nicotine is a devilishly hard drug to kick; I managed, after countless false starts, to quit smoking, but I will probably leach nicotine into the soil long after I am dead. Note that I said I quit smoking but not nicotine; quitting smoking was, in the end, a matter of

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¿Third-wave feminist?

[tatzelbrumm]

A definition of this term for readers not familiar with the jargon of this particular discourse would be helpful.

Re: ¿Third-wave feminist?

[maradydd]

Wikipedia's right over there, dude.

Re: ¿Third-wave feminist?

[tatzelbrumm]

Ummm, yes. Looked it up, and ...

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Re: ¿Third-wave feminist?

[ext_776811]

The dude actually raises an important question

[asher63]

Very interesting article. We often take mental shortcuts to simplify multi-factor situations.

[maradydd]

I actively think of this as principal component analysis over an N-dimensional graph, when I'm thinking about it (i.e., using System 2). When I'm doing it, I just do it. (System 1.)

[songblaze]

idk if I've mentioned it to you, but just so's you know - vaporizers are v. hazardous to my ability to breathe. I doubt you'd be rude about it, as you were always polite in the past with cigarette smoke, but I know some people don't realize that even the vaporizers can cause problems for asthmatics. And I'd probably eventually have issues with the nicotine if I was exposed to too much of that, but I haven't ever been in that situation (only been stuck in clouds of cigarette smoke in clubs and pubs and bars and whatnot, which made me really sick, which I believe you and Len opined was probably due to hypersensitivity to nicotine, but quite understandably none of us thought testing it was a good idea, with how badly it mucked with me! I really hate blacking out

[maradydd]

You're not the only one, actually! A few other people I know -- one an ex-smoker, one who's never smoked -- get a buzz off secondhand vapor, so if someone has a bad reaction, I go outside.

[songblaze]

Yeah, I have trouble even with the non-nicotine ones. Something in the vapor triggers me. But I do have stupidly sensitive lungs. Fortunately, they seem to have gotten a bit better since I left Philly

[maradydd]

Propylene glycol can be very drying to the throat, which I imagine could set off a chain of responses leading to an asthma attack. (OTOH it's also a carrier liquid for nebulizers and some atomizers, which I bet makes finding the right asthma medication a special hell for some people.)

[rjgrady]

I find myself implementing intellectual kludges. Like, on the one hand, I am pretty hardcore feminist. On the other hand, I am a spirited pro-sex kind of person. In many ways, these two positions are beautiful compatible. In fewer cases, but not a tiny number, each viewpoint "clearly" espouses a position opposed by the other

[maradydd]

In a classical game theory model, this probably looks like you playing a mixed strategy, and in the annoyingly naive interpretation (where the pure strategies are either "all sexy pictures are fine" or "all sexy pictures are objectification"), a mixed strategy doesn't really compute to someone playing one of the pure strategies ("why are they okay with some sexy pictures but not others?")

The classical model unfortunately flattens out the nuance in "why", which makes it a bad model. I can mentally model the preferences you've expressed just fine, though, to the point where I think you could show me pictures of superheroes and I could probably guess whether you like the pictures or not. I'm going to have to think about how I represent that internally, because your position doesn't strike me as at all self-contradictory.

[whswhs]

Do those two errors roughly translate to false positives and false negatives, as in the old "imprison one innocent person or let ten guilty people go free" tradeoff?

[maradydd]

False positives and false negatives are involved, but precision and recall calibrate false positive count and false negative count against the true positive count. Precision is (true positive / (true positive + false positive)), and recall is (true positive / (true positive + false negative)).