BSG: The Plan

Nov 08, 2009 18:13

Wow, I haven't been in here in a while! *blows dust off entries*

Hay, everybody!  I just watched The Plan and have the urge to talk about it. 
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ckr, bsg

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olsonm_raymond November 9 2009, 03:28:52 UTC
Hi Mary! I'm glad you liked it!

You forgot to mention that there was no Laura. :`-(

I was under the impression that Boomer only needed the elephant to be conscious of her identity as agent eight. She was clearly capable of carrying out missions without being aware of it. Her mission was to shoot Adama and she carried it out at an appropriate time, unconsciously (though she did a bad job of it).

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mary_the_fan November 9 2009, 19:15:23 UTC
You might be right; I hadn't thought of it that way ( ... )

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olsonm_raymond November 9 2009, 19:46:43 UTC
This is where I disagree with you. The only thing that could make Boomer aware that she was a cylon agent was the elephant. No elephant, no awareness. When she shot Bill she was on automatic pilot. Interestingly, since Boomer was still there (i.e. no elephant), she may have influenced the shots so not to kill him out right. (She accomplished her mission but left the possibility that he might survive).

In other words, the elephant was a visual trigger. Boomer had to be aware of it to be conscious. Out of sight out of mind. Which makes it ironic that the biggest stumbling block to her being a faithful cylon was her cover story as a fully realized human being who couldn't accept what she was.

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watson1 November 9 2009, 03:34:17 UTC
Mary!!

I finally watched today, too. And I am very happy that I did. :)

I loved it. I was startled and unhappy when it ended. I could have watched another two hours that took us all the way to the end of the series.

Word. I'm with you. I'd happily sit down for a few more hours. Because I loved it. :)

First thoughts -- before I start commenting on yours. I loved how much division we saw among the Cylons. We always knew that Boomer was conflicted, and the Six had feelings for/was in love with Baltar - but I loved the happily married/willing to commit suicide so he doesn't have to kill his wife and kid Simon. Given everything we've ever seen with Simon - experimenting on Kara & Hera, etc. - it's a pleasant surprise to see one of that model also fall in love, and care about humans. As it was to see Caprica Cavil come to the conclusion that they had done the wrong thing.

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mary_the_fan November 9 2009, 19:07:40 UTC
Yeah, I agree. I like that you bring up Simon, because they not only distinguished between the Simon we knew (at The Farm and later) but they distinguished Caprica Simon from Fleet Simon (the married one) beautifully. The one on Caprica was literally smiling every time the destruction was mentioned. The one in the fleet had been altered by love of a human, much like Caprica Six and Boomer.

That's just one reason this bugged me so much: in the extras, the piece about the different Cylon models, Rick Worthy talks about Fleet Simon and how interesting it was to play a Cylon married to a human. But they kept showing shot after shot of Caprica Simon, who --- which is the whole frakking point --- is NOT THE SAME PERSON. I’m a stickler for this shit, sorry, but they might as well have showed Tigh over and over. Stupid.

SORRY FOR THE EDIT DEAR, MY LJ IS WONKY FOR SOME REASON.

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watson1 November 9 2009, 03:37:17 UTC
Hi Ray.

You forgot to mention that there was no Laura. :`-(

I found that omission to be extremely odd. I realize that they didn't shoot new scenes with Lee/Gaius/Kara, etc., but they were clearly relevant to the story in some way. Even if it was just Lee in the background of some scenes. I can't believe that there wasn't a scene in which Laura was in the background that would have been relevant. It seemed like the omission was intentional, for some reason.

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watson1 November 9 2009, 03:39:36 UTC
And I have a question -- who in the hell left the note for Bill that there were only 12 models? I don't remember it being answered in the series, and they didn't answer it The Plan, either. I could be forgetting something that happened in the series, though.

I've always assumed it was Boomer, but I could be wrong about that.

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olsonm_raymond November 9 2009, 03:41:17 UTC
It was Baltar. They cut from Adama finding the note to a slow-mo shot of Gauis. The commentary confirms it was Baltar.

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watson1 November 9 2009, 03:43:10 UTC
Ah, thanks Ray. I didn't catch the slow-mo shot, nor have I listened to the commentary.

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olsonm_raymond November 9 2009, 03:39:54 UTC
Hi Watz! I'll never forgive them. ;-)

I did like that Simon's wife was a 'character' in the mini-series. (and Ed Olmos's wife) It somehow made the character fit in more.

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