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Speaking of which, this is such a great quote, from Rand Ravich, via Watch With Krisin, online:
Has the show forgotten about Sarah Shahi's Dani Reese?
No, she's still preggers, but says Rand, "The energy of the show is Crews and Reese tumbling over and around each other. And that's something I would want to go back to as soon as I can." Us too! Those two are among the best partners of any stripe on any show anywhere.
I love that!
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We fell woefully behind in our watching of Life in the past few weeks and have only just now finished watching the season finale. I could not wait to come here and see what Mary and you all had to say.
It's late, and I'm confused on some plot points about which I will be asking for your wisdom later, and I have some thoughts on the whole philia/agape/eros thing. But for now I just wanted to react to a few small points already made:
1. Mary on Charlie and the biker gal: Charlie gets in the car, stops at a light, and a pretty girl with breasts rides up beside him and smiles. He doesn't smile back. I loved that! Normally, he'd give her that goofy, sexy, I-love-my-new-life smile. Not this time. Excellent.
I noticed this too and it was brilliant---he's just way too focused on saving Reese to even give a second thought to her. But DL conveyed this in such an organic, non-cliched way. Small but brilliant moment, like so many in this show.
I love your observation about Bobby. I agree about the husband/dad thing. I also see that as evidence of his devotion to Charlie. He's absolutely on task, part of the team. Even if he were interested, what he truly gets off on is being a soldier for Charlie.
Okay, I here… FINALLY!! Well, like a fine wine, Quaggy’s thoughts need time to age. :-P The thing about waiting this long is that some of the stuff I was going to say was already covered. But that’s fine, this thing is long enough as it is! LJ is making me break it up into two parts
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I'm so glad you're here! No worries about the delay --- I'm always happy to talk Life.
What’s very interesting about this is that both Seever, who is his current partner, and Bobby, who was his old partner and in some ways never stopped, were given scene that highlighted that both understand Charlie and Dani’s partnership is on a different, deeper level.
This has me intrigued. Tell me more about this.
And your theory about Rayborn is really interesting. So you think that Amanda was taking photos of Charlie's wall, for example, to report back to Rayborn, not to implicate Charlie or to find Rayborn. I haven't thought of it that way!
The Con exists to protect the Cop. One cannot survive without the other because they are both Charlie.Yeah, I really like this! I like it a lot better than Sepinwall's take, which was the "either/or" thing (and a bit mis-characterized to boot). One of the brilliant aspects of DL's performance is how the hell he gets all the aspects of Charlie to hang together believably. I love how you described
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I have no definitive proof, just a bunch of impressions. Seever tells Charlie "let's go get your partner", which basically awknowledges that she's just the stand in. When he brings Charlie his bigger gun, Bobby talks to about what he's going to do if he can't bring Dani back (if memory serves.) The thing is, he kept saying "partner", but it stuck me at the time how similar the conversation would be if they were talking about Charlie's wife. I probably wouldn't have gotten that vibe from anybody else, but Bobby is Charlie's old partner and therefore should fall in the same category as Dani... but she seemed to be something more.
So you think that Amanda was taking photos of Charlie's wall, for example, to report back to Rayborn, not to implicate Charlie or to find Rayborn. I haven't thought of it that way!Right. She was trying to pressure Charlie so that, in desperation, he'd try to smoke Rayborn out. Except Charlie doesn't act the way people expect him to act. So he never went down
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As for the more obvious interpretation… Well, I think the expression on Dani’s face said it all. She was doing her best not to freak out and totally loose it. I think the only thing that kept her together as she starred evil in the face was knowing that Charlie was coming for her. Not in a grand, heroic “storm the castle and rescue the maiden” way. Poor Tidwell found out the hard way that those sort of shenanigans didn’t work against someone like Roman. (Witness the way he went off almost half-cocked, while Charlie never once lost it.) Charlie was coming for her knowing exactly who he was up against and Dani’s job was to keep Roman as off-balance as she could. She might have been the one tied to a chair, but Roman, the king of psychological and emotional warfare, was getting played like a violin
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There’s no change in their relationship… it’s an acceptance of how things are and the full ramifications. Maybe somewhere down the road romance will enter the equation, but right now they are both fully aware that they are two halves of the same whole and wouldn’t have it any other way.
Yes, I love the way you described that! ITA, if the show comes back, it won't be some big topsy-turvy, "everything's different now" thing. Maybe a little for Dani, since she's always actively resisted any suggestion that she cares about Charlie. (She was the one, of the two of them, who seemed to experience a bit of an epiphany.) But she'd settle down. I agree that nothing would fundamentally change right away, if ever, and I'd really enjoy seeing their emotions from the rescue work on them over the course of a season.
I agree that nothing would fundamentally change right away, if ever, and I'd really enjoy seeing their emotions from the rescue work on them over the course of a season.
To be honest, I think the biggest catalyst for change would be Tidwell. I can really see Charlie and Dani both being very Zen about things afterwards(or at least Zen-ish), but Tidwell sort of freaking out a little and then freaking out even more because nobody was acting differently.
Yeah. And, as much as I've been against Tidwell and Dani every minute, from before it even happened, I proactively feel bad for Tidwell. And you're right, he's so emotional...he might serve as the voice of it, in a way. Am I thinking of a Greek chorus or the other thing? (wow it's late and I have stopped making sense...)
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For the Life newsletter, full (even more than usual), of the most wonderful stuff.
Speaking of which, this is such a great quote, from Rand Ravich, via Watch With Krisin, online:
Has the show forgotten about Sarah Shahi's Dani Reese?
No, she's still preggers, but says Rand, "The energy of the show is Crews and Reese tumbling over and around each other. And that's something I would want to go back to as soon as I can." Us too! Those two are among the best partners of any stripe on any show anywhere.
I love that!
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We fell woefully behind in our watching of Life in the past few weeks and have only just now finished watching the season finale. I could not wait to come here and see what Mary and you all had to say.
It's late, and I'm confused on some plot points about which I will be asking for your wisdom later, and I have some thoughts on the whole philia/agape/eros thing. But for now I just wanted to react to a few small points already made:
1. Mary on Charlie and the biker gal: Charlie gets in the car, stops at a light, and a pretty girl with breasts rides up beside him and smiles. He doesn't smile back. I loved that! Normally, he'd give her that goofy, sexy, I-love-my-new-life smile. Not this time. Excellent.
I noticed this too and it was brilliant---he's just way too focused on saving Reese to even give a second thought to her. But DL conveyed this in such an organic, non-cliched way. Small but brilliant moment, like so many in this show.
2. Mary on Bobby: But watching now, we ( ... )
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I love your observation about Bobby. I agree about the husband/dad thing. I also see that as evidence of his devotion to Charlie. He's absolutely on task, part of the team. Even if he were interested, what he truly gets off on is being a soldier for Charlie.
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What’s very interesting about this is that both Seever, who is his current partner, and Bobby, who was his old partner and in some ways never stopped, were given scene that highlighted that both understand Charlie and Dani’s partnership is on a different, deeper level.
This has me intrigued. Tell me more about this.
And your theory about Rayborn is really interesting. So you think that Amanda was taking photos of Charlie's wall, for example, to report back to Rayborn, not to implicate Charlie or to find Rayborn. I haven't thought of it that way!
The Con exists to protect the Cop. One cannot survive without the other because they are both Charlie.Yeah, I really like this! I like it a lot better than Sepinwall's take, which was the "either/or" thing (and a bit mis-characterized to boot). One of the brilliant aspects of DL's performance is how the hell he gets all the aspects of Charlie to hang together believably. I love how you described ( ... )
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I have no definitive proof, just a bunch of impressions. Seever tells Charlie "let's go get your partner", which basically awknowledges that she's just the stand in. When he brings Charlie his bigger gun, Bobby talks to about what he's going to do if he can't bring Dani back (if memory serves.) The thing is, he kept saying "partner", but it stuck me at the time how similar the conversation would be if they were talking about Charlie's wife. I probably wouldn't have gotten that vibe from anybody else, but Bobby is Charlie's old partner and therefore should fall in the same category as Dani... but she seemed to be something more.
So you think that Amanda was taking photos of Charlie's wall, for example, to report back to Rayborn, not to implicate Charlie or to find Rayborn. I haven't thought of it that way!Right. She was trying to pressure Charlie so that, in desperation, he'd try to smoke Rayborn out. Except Charlie doesn't act the way people expect him to act. So he never went down ( ... )
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There’s no change in their relationship… it’s an acceptance of how things are and the full ramifications. Maybe somewhere down the road romance will enter the equation, but right now they are both fully aware that they are two halves of the same whole and wouldn’t have it any other way.
Yes, I love the way you described that! ITA, if the show comes back, it won't be some big topsy-turvy, "everything's different now" thing. Maybe a little for Dani, since she's always actively resisted any suggestion that she cares about Charlie. (She was the one, of the two of them, who seemed to experience a bit of an epiphany.) But she'd settle down. I agree that nothing would fundamentally change right away, if ever, and I'd really enjoy seeing their emotions from the rescue work on them over the course of a season.
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To be honest, I think the biggest catalyst for change would be Tidwell. I can really see Charlie and Dani both being very Zen about things afterwards(or at least Zen-ish), but Tidwell sort of freaking out a little and then freaking out even more because nobody was acting differently.
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