why? those who will vote for Nader are not "taking away" votes from whomever wins the Democratic nomination - no third party candidate does that. what a third party candidate does do, however, is provide a voting option for those whose views and issues are not supported or hell, even addressed by the Republicans and Democrats. Nader voters would not vote Democrat even if he wasn't running, they'd either find another third party (Greens?) or abstain from voting
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Um, except in florida. And these days, perhaps ohio.
I'd be happy to vote for third party candidates in a multi-party system for congress, instant runoff voting for president, etc., but the system isn't set up that way.
Just over 500 votes in florida in 2000 elected Bush. So much for habeas corpus, the war in iraq and 80,000+ documented civilian deaths, etc., etc., and I find that disgusting.
Gore lost Florida for the following reasons: 1. Al Gore didn't ask for a statewide recount, just a recount of certain counties. his argument of disenfranchised voters was then rendered invalid. 2. George W. Bush certainly had some great connections in Florida. ...but most of all, 3. The Democrats consistantly offer up candidates who are increasingly Republican-lite, spineless and pandering, and in bed with big business - and that includes Al Gore. had Al Gore been a better candidate and had run a better campaign any third party would not be a "threat
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Nader's 92,000 votes in florida couldn't have *anything* to do with Bush winning? Bullshit, that's why nader is running again. That's the whole point of running - it isn't as if he'll pull in enough votes to win much less to create a viable third party.
There are a lot of dead people in the middle east who can thank nader for bush being in office. The fact that nader feels nothing about that - the fact that he seems to relish getting republican donations and backing, it all flies in the face of his claims of helping people. What will his running do to help anyone? Where is this third party he has failed to create years in a row? What's the point?
This isn't fear tactics, it's a simple game of political chess. And this isn't how you raise a third party.
If you ever want to hear someone talk shit about Nader then you should talk to Rob's mother. I've never seen anyone speak so passionately about how much they hate a certain "political" figure hehe she will of course begin with how she lost her beloved car because of him. Then again Rob's mother has a natural ability to speak things will get the average person shot on the streets solely based on what comes out of her mouth.
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I'd be happy to vote for third party candidates in a multi-party system for congress, instant runoff voting for president, etc., but the system isn't set up that way.
Just over 500 votes in florida in 2000 elected Bush. So much for habeas corpus, the war in iraq and 80,000+ documented civilian deaths, etc., etc., and I find that disgusting.
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There are a lot of dead people in the middle east who can thank nader for bush being in office. The fact that nader feels nothing about that - the fact that he seems to relish getting republican donations and backing, it all flies in the face of his claims of helping people. What will his running do to help anyone? Where is this third party he has failed to create years in a row? What's the point?
This isn't fear tactics, it's a simple game of political chess. And this isn't how you raise a third party.
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