Yankees need to step it up if they want to win.

[maverick1013]

First off, the giants lead their divison 3-1 (tied with redskins) and I don't want to alarm anyone... but they have the #1 points scoring offense in the league, and Eli Manning is in the top 5 for passer rating

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[galaxianomiko]

Man. You complain about me analyzing books too thoroughly, and then you go complain about casual fans in YOUR fandom who don't analyze to that extent? :P Wanky, dude.

[maverick1013]

It's not that you anaylze too thoroughly at all, I'm all for that. I just believe it's possible to analyze and get things from it that aren't neccessarily there, but people say they're there to prove their points. They basically exaggerate little things that may either be author error, up for interpretation or even manipulated to prove their point. Like for example with the whole dumbledore thing, you'd give me a lot of arguements people came up with that were TOTALLY reaching to prove he sucks. I'm all for analysing, but sometimes it's clearly finding things there because people WANT it to be there. Like the whole telling the houses to go to their dorms when the troll was lose..while slytherin's house was in the dungeon where the troll supposidly was. This is more than likely nothing but author error, you've said it yourself she forgets things ALL THE TIME, and I don't think this can be used as an arguement against dumbledore as some people clearly brought up. That arguement makes me roll my eyes, because it's technical. it's

[galaxianomiko]

I think you'll find that lately people are more willing to say "author error" in this fandom, due to the suckitude and number of mistakes in the latest books, and the fact that this particular author won't stay out of the fandom. She's too omnipresent now not to take her opinions and biases into consideration. It's not *supposed* to be like that when you're doing analysis, but oh well.

I disagree with you, though, about looking at something as a potential author mistake and then not counting it--we cannot ever say for sure on most of these things, because we are not in JKR's head. I agree that the Slytherin dungeon bit was probably a mistake--but I can also see it not being one, given the pattern the rest of the books follow. I don't think taking that scene seriously would automatically make someone's argument invalid.

[maverick1013]

There are times such as that example where in all likelyhood it was just a slip up. For that to be counted against a character in the novel makes it unfair, because it's the slip up of the author writing the book and not the character. While often you can't tell what the author was thinking there are times you can get a pretty good idea. When people try to use those times as arguments the other way, I cannot help but roll my eyes. It's like, sure, you can TECHNICALLY use that arguement because someone can't 100% prove it's untrue....but I know it's bullshit, and you know it's bullshit.