It would totally be Gabriel/Loki's style to put a double-cross within a double-cross. On the other hand, even remotely funny characters tend to die early and often in the Kripke-verse. Hell, they even killed off funny Dean, letting Emo Dean crawl out of the crypt. Castiel, I think you left something behind when you dragged that boy out of the basement!
Genius. Our friend Kady turned me on to your post because somehow you're not on my reading filter (fixed!). I was trying to say as much as you did in your disclaimers, and then I started thinking in the general direction of believers-make-the-stronger-religion, but you got there first and did it better. Thanks!
My fannish response, leaving the view of the show writing out of it, is that these were not the gods they said they were. There were too many wrong things that would have been so simple to get right, especially since the writers were thinking deeply enough to include gods from lesser known religions. I want to see the real gods come out and pick up where Kali and Gabriel left off.
You know, this episode reminded me of Stargate mythology in oh so many ways. Not just the O.G. Big Bad (cavorting as gods) wearing people suits but in the later Ori arc with the whole power determinate on their worshipers beliefs, etc.
I always wondered what would have happened if SG:TPTB had stepped up and portrayed Jesus Christ as a goa'uld. Watching this season of SPN, I'm kinda glad they didn't. Not just because it probably would have been kinda awful (directly evil as opposed to benign) but I remember thinking (when they aired the episode with Amaterasu!goa'uld) how could they possibly ever handle it well and get away with it? I think SPN has answered that question, though. It's okay to portray god as an absentee father (which equates to Free Will) as long as you don't make him an abusive father. We'll save the discussion about John Winchester in that light for another time. :)
I guess what I'm trying to say (and probably doing badly) is that I can see what SPN was going for in this episode but it felt more like Show knew it
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Hey there, before I even read further, wanna say thanks for the link to xkcd, before I forget! I've just wasted a heap of time, lol, isn't it brilliant! ;)
Man, it's just like savouring on a great piece of steak, reading your meta; melt in the mouth delight! (apologies to vegans and others - just realised how gross that could read *blush*) The breadth of your knowledge is exciting, supporting, clarifying and winning your argument, hands down.
I just wanna see more of Sam; Dean acknowledges he's an adult now, but still he plays second fiddle to Dean's "navigation". OK, so he made a few erroneous choices, but more Sam and Dean solving together. Team Free Will come back!
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There can never be enough cowbell.
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My fannish response, leaving the view of the show writing out of it, is that these were not the gods they said they were. There were too many wrong things that would have been so simple to get right, especially since the writers were thinking deeply enough to include gods from lesser known religions. I want to see the real gods come out and pick up where Kali and Gabriel left off.
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I always wondered what would have happened if SG:TPTB had stepped up and portrayed Jesus Christ as a goa'uld. Watching this season of SPN, I'm kinda glad they didn't. Not just because it probably would have been kinda awful (directly evil as opposed to benign) but I remember thinking (when they aired the episode with Amaterasu!goa'uld) how could they possibly ever handle it well and get away with it? I think SPN has answered that question, though. It's okay to portray god as an absentee father (which equates to Free Will) as long as you don't make him an abusive father. We'll save the discussion about John Winchester in that light for another time. :)
I guess what I'm trying to say (and probably doing badly) is that I can see what SPN was going for in this episode but it felt more like Show knew it ( ... )
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I just wanna see more of Sam; Dean acknowledges he's an adult now, but still he plays second fiddle to Dean's "navigation". OK, so he made a few erroneous choices, but more Sam and Dean solving together. Team Free Will come back!
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