Radio UserLand is not Frontier
anonymous
May 5 2005, 03:05:11 UTC
While Radio UserLand, Frontier and Manila share large chunks of common code, they are definitely not the same apps. You paint Radio poorly with broad brush when you say "...Frontier (and Radio when Userland sells it)..."
In fact, Radio UserLand is the app you describe when you ask Dave to give it away:
"If Dave started telling people he was going to give away an Internet programming tool that could make web sites... aggregate RSS feeds from thousands of sources he'd generate a lot of anticipation for the release of such a technology."
Dave created Radio when he was at UserLand and it's living on as a commercially supported and community developed application.
The truth could make him a better marketeer. He pretends that he invented everything under the sun ,but the closest he has come is being part of companies that did invent things. He also claims that he will start some sort of "revolution" in journalism while using words like bullshit to describe anything good that a Republican has done. He is nothing but a biased con artist that likes to pretend his almost useful programs change the world. Dave's world is a sad one.
RE: Dave and Outliners
anonymous
May 5 2005, 12:47:07 UTC
Previous commenter RE: Dave--
Please don't stoop to personal attacks when arguing for or against a point--in this case Dave's marketing process. If you feel that strongly, write it on your weblog and send him an email.
Dave's apps are not "almost useful", instead they are outstanding examples of simplicity. An outline is something most people can understand. His programming language, UserTalk, relies on a "top down" hierarchy. Therefore, the outliner is the bridge for the average user to cross when they are ready to automate, script and even program in the executive environment, whether it's Frontier, Manila or Radio.
I've used Radio for nearly 3 years and it's taken this long to understand elegance of the infrastructure. Once you are inside it, create something for it and evangelize it--you never want to go back. Thanks for your work on UserTalk and the outliner, Dave. It's made a fundamental difference in my life.
Re: Dave and Outliners
anonymous
May 5 2005, 23:44:38 UTC
Its not an attack it is simply the truth. His programs dont do anything that wasnt done better many years ago. He also is extremely biased. If he told the truth he would be a much better marketer. I hope he can find the courage to do that.
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In fact, Radio UserLand is the app you describe when you ask Dave to give it away:
"If Dave started telling people he was going to give away an Internet
programming tool that could make web sites... aggregate RSS feeds
from thousands of sources he'd generate a lot of anticipation for
the release of such a technology."
Dave created Radio when he was at UserLand and it's living on as a commercially supported and community developed application.
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Dave's world is a sad one.
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Please don't stoop to personal attacks when arguing for or against a point--in this case Dave's marketing process. If you feel that strongly, write it on your weblog and send him an email.
Dave's apps are not "almost useful", instead they are outstanding examples of simplicity. An outline is something most people can understand. His programming language, UserTalk, relies on a "top down" hierarchy. Therefore, the outliner is the bridge for the average user to cross when they are ready to automate, script and even program in the executive environment, whether it's Frontier, Manila or Radio.
I've used Radio for nearly 3 years and it's taken this long to understand elegance of the infrastructure. Once you are inside it, create something for it and evangelize it--you never want to go back. Thanks for your work on UserTalk and the outliner, Dave. It's made a fundamental difference in my life.
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Steve Kirks
http://houseofwarwick.com
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