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amberlula August 27 2010, 01:48:20 UTC
Does your comment about the UK mean that you hail from there? Either way what you say also applies here in the states....You said agriculture will burn out the soil, is this commercial agriculture, or do you worry people don't rotate their crops....? What exactly do you mean by this?!

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mckee92 August 27 2010, 01:54:49 UTC
Indeed, I was talking mainly about the UK, and also about commercial agriculture. The intensive use of artificial chemicals and the sheer ammount of yield demanded is destructive to the soil, whilst at the moment the soil is turned over and nutrients and fertiliser is foled in, this isn't something we can keep doing. The soil will eventually loose its ability to retain these vital components and thus become useless for agriculture.

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mckee92 August 27 2010, 01:57:26 UTC
Oh, I was so focussed on answering I forgot to be civil :P
Whats your opinion on sustainability and on whether its a purely environmental issue related to survival, or a more holistic beneficial idea.

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amberlula August 27 2010, 02:04:09 UTC
Funny I never questioned your civility, but now that you have brought up these questions....well...I think sustainability is not soley one or the other...sustainability envelopes 100% the way one leads their life...or SSHOULD ;) I think always how the way even my community defeats even the most simple attempts at sustainability...As you said! IF even we look at the scope of our food...the realm in which it's grown, harvested, distributed, sold, eaten...and what is it exactly......this alone is greatly paramount to what one considers a holistic lifestyle...I dont' know if this answers the question in the way you want. The acknowledgment of these things is a good beginning for this generation....

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amberlula August 27 2010, 01:58:05 UTC
For sure you are right, and golly if I havent thought of this often enough, the clarity in which you speak of this problem is fantastic, and what does one do? are these the kind of tragedies we accept and banter about?:( Perhaps when nature decides to strike in such a way that uproots the whole of our way of life, we will then be able to begin with like minded strategies......true optimism ;) Do you drive with a buy local bumper sticker?

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mckee92 August 27 2010, 02:09:24 UTC
I don't drive. I only just turned 18, and have no real desire to drive, I live locally or can find other means of getting around mostly.

As for what one does, its an often asked question. I can posit that I either work hard, afford some land and look after myself and others with what I can scratch from the dirt, or I stand there going 'I told you so' as a tidal wave wipes me and my home city out into the sea. Any other option is really idle fancy, but don't tell my more revolutionary friends.

I'd support buying locally as an interim measure, avoiding pandering to globalisation and powerful consumerism, but buying is something I'd rather not have to consider.

How do you feel about local produce and supporting small bussiness?

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amberlula August 27 2010, 02:20:14 UTC
ahhh here the great clashes......I live in a rural area, though not too far from the city and drive I must ( ... )

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mckee92 August 27 2010, 02:54:23 UTC
Whilst things are like they are right now, most certainly I would prefer buying local and buying better produce, its mainly a question of money and willpower for myself. One major benefit I find of eating local produce is that it is often of much higher quality than anything you can get elsewhere.

The price does vary sometimes, my family have found some remarkably cheap stuff, considering the quality, and some places selling pretty naff stuff for a higher price. I know my folks (who are much more motivated than myself) get a lot of joy out of finding good deals.

Altogether, it seems a much better way of carrying on, even disregarding the wider impact such actions take.

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hexiel August 31 2010, 15:25:33 UTC
nah its all okay.
earth is on an eliptical orbit so 'part' of the global warming thing is that the planet is getting closer to the sun. it'll move away eventually and it'll all get colder.

its catch 22 anyway. sure you could buy an electric car, but the manufacture of the parts and battery (and disposal of said battery) negate the carbon footprint of running the car. farming animals is really polluting, so we'd all have to be vegetarians... no, vegans.

industry/politics. it wont change. people like me like how things are too much. i sound like an arse.

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mckee92 August 31 2010, 20:27:56 UTC
Not at all, I like things as they are (in some respects) too.
The thing is, sustainable living goes beyond dealing with climate change, since even without global warming, if we destroy our ability to grow food locally (what I'm talking about above) then in the long term we are totally dependant on foreign food to survive, not a good place to be at all.

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