Nonsensical idiots...

Oct 04, 2007 15:50

And here is yet another reason why I am scared of far right conservatives (especially the women ( Read more... )

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arcticturtle October 5 2007, 02:19:07 UTC
Interesting book: 25 Tough Questions about women and the Church. There's a lot more feminism in the Bible than most people realize!

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backwardz October 5 2007, 20:07:25 UTC
Ok... Let me see if I can get this out.

Your points are valid. Your anger, however, is not.

Let's talk about gender roles in society, quoting from Ken Wilbur's A Brief History of Everything.

Q: Now you said that our society has been male-oriented for some time, and that a certain balancing of the books seems to be in order.

KW: This is what is generally meant by the “patriarchy,” a word which is always pronounced with scorn. The obvious and perhaps naïve solution is to simply say that men imposed the patriarchy on women-a nasty and brutal state of affairs that easily could have been different-and therefore all that is required now is for men to simply say, “Oops, excuse me, didn’t mean to crush and oppress you for five thousand years. What was I thinking? Can we just start over ( ... )

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backwardz October 5 2007, 20:07:40 UTC
(con't ( ... )

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thetailknws2mch October 12 2007, 04:22:40 UTC
Do you realize that you wrote that whole incredibly long quote and then said, "The fact is our hard-wiring, our instincts are old, something like 40,000 years old. They are out of date, no question, but that doesn’t change that we’re all still imbued, born with them," which is exactly the opposite of everything he was saying? His whole point was that it wasn't a genetic thing or something that had gone on forever, but a temporary and (wo)man-made societal neccessity that we're currently in the process of out-growing.

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backwardz October 12 2007, 09:53:47 UTC
I don't see how my two statements conflict.

When our instincts were new, male dominated heirarchies made more sense than they do now.

Our instincts are no longer new. We've awakened to deeper consciousness and this is forcing us to re-evaluate and change our societal structures.

I do not see how I contradicted myself.

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