Re: Moira MacTaggert / X-men First classleblagueurAugust 25 2011, 19:55:31 UTC
A bit of constructive criticism if I may.
When you're starting out with a new character, might I suggest spending more time focusing on Moira herself as opposed to having so much focus on the Moira/Charles 'ship? It seems right now that everything she is, every thought, every feeling, every moment revolves around him, and that can be really damaging to a character, especially one you're still trying to establish. If you define a character based on a 'ship rather than the character herself, from experience I can tell you that it can become very difficult to play her against others or to find her voice in other scenes.
Re: Moira MacTaggert / X-men First classmoiramactaggertAugust 25 2011, 20:04:47 UTC
Thank you for that. I can see how I've been making that mistake. I had hoped writing out her bio would help me get away from that, and it has mentally, it just hasn't reflected in my play.
I do have some ideas that don't involve Charles, and I'm looking forward to hopefully playing those soon.
Re: Moira MacTaggert / X-men First classleblagueurAugust 25 2011, 20:42:24 UTC
Normally I would, but one week from now I'm gonna be on a plane to the UK for three weeks, so I'm not going to be doing much for posting until I return near the end of September. Just trying to focus on the posts I owe is difficult enough right now, I'm far too excited! lol
Re: Moira MacTaggert / X-men First classnot_oreoAugust 25 2011, 20:15:34 UTC
I'm not up to making all-over criticism, but a few small thing that may help you as a writer get a better grasp on the situation at themutanthood
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Re: Moira MacTaggert / X-men First classmoiramactaggertAugust 25 2011, 20:37:41 UTC
Honestly, I've tried not to read many other threads, because that makes it even harder for me to keep clear what things Moira should know and what she shouldn't.
Honestly at this point I wish I could just rewind the past two weeks and start over from scratch. I feel like I've done more wrong than right. I went into the comm with the wrong frame of mind and I have no one to blame but myself.
That said, I do want to fix it, and your advice is very helpful. Would you be willing to do some dry run threads with me on sws or something to help me work things out?
Re: Moira MacTaggert / X-men First classnot_oreoAugust 25 2011, 21:37:46 UTC
Heh. Keeping notes helps, until you get the hang of it. But reading other threads gives you as a writer better idea of what to expect and what is needed and where. An RP is a group effort, and not paying attention to what else is going on results in ignoring important things. For example, if a character gets his/her arm broken in another thread and forgets to mention the cast in the tag to Moira, you as a player would be aware that the character cannot use both arms, because it would be something that Moira can physically see
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Re: Moira MacTaggert / X-men First classmoiramactaggertAugust 26 2011, 00:55:58 UTC
I know I can't retcon... but I still wish I could.
I suppose at this point 'fixed' means changing the impression Moira has given of herself. I don't want her to be this emotional monster I've been portraying so far. I want her to be more like the movie - strong, doesn't say a lot, but is friendly and kind and considerate of others.
My goal for right now is to find a niche for her in the house. Oddly enough I think her comic canon would be the best, and in the comics when she first arrived at the mansion, she was the housekeeper. So I'd like my Moira to be in charge of the house, keeping the kitchen stocked, that kind of stuff. I also want her educated in genetics, since comic Moira has a Ph.D. in it. I think that will involve Hank, so I'm planning on talking to his mun about that.
Re: Moira MacTaggert / X-men First classnot_oreoAugust 26 2011, 12:03:26 UTC
Come on. It's way more fun if you stick to it and find out how to make what you have work. Trust me, your kids will find themselves in worse circumstances if you stick to RP. Find the ways to let them dig themselves out. Mistakes happen. We just... fix them.
All right, now that's a more specific start. Some starting directions from there are: why was she strong? What was driving her? How did she express her considerateness? How have you not? That way you can highlight in your mind things to avoid in the future. And every tag, before you hit send. Ask yourself, would the Moira from the movie say/do this?
You know, those two things are mutually exclusive. To get a degree in genetics, she will need to be away from the house for semesters at a time. (And Charles may have a degree, but he cannot educate her on his own, not when he has an entire nascent school for mutants and time-travelers to take care of. Not to mention that his last statement was that he wants to have as little to do with her as possible.) So at the very least you
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Re: Moira MacTaggert / X-men First classmoiramactaggertAugust 26 2011, 20:21:47 UTC
I'm looking at these as ideas, not plans. I am going to blend comic and movie canon, so while she may not technically get a Ph.D., I could still have her be extremely knowledgeable on the subject. That may not require Hank to teach her directly 24/7, but directing her to the right books/papers/periodicals to read, etc. would be a good start
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Re: Moira MacTaggert / X-men First classnot_oreoAugust 27 2011, 05:21:02 UTC
Anytime!
Yes, considering possibilities is good. Just also consider what they mean. Becoming knowledgeable in genetics does not get limited to reading about it. There are also things that need to be seen and experimented on. And it takes years. Things like that!
*nods, sends hugs* Not getting stuck in the same mistake is good. Seeking out new horizons is awesome.
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You're doing great!
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When you're starting out with a new character, might I suggest spending more time focusing on Moira herself as opposed to having so much focus on the Moira/Charles 'ship? It seems right now that everything she is, every thought, every feeling, every moment revolves around him, and that can be really damaging to a character, especially one you're still trying to establish. If you define a character based on a 'ship rather than the character herself, from experience I can tell you that it can become very difficult to play her against others or to find her voice in other scenes.
Just something to think about. :)
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I do have some ideas that don't involve Charles, and I'm looking forward to hopefully playing those soon.
I appreciate your input. *hug*
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Honestly at this point I wish I could just rewind the past two weeks and start over from scratch. I feel like I've done more wrong than right. I went into the comm with the wrong frame of mind and I have no one to blame but myself.
That said, I do want to fix it, and your advice is very helpful. Would you be willing to do some dry run threads with me on sws or something to help me work things out?
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I suppose at this point 'fixed' means changing the impression Moira has given of herself. I don't want her to be this emotional monster I've been portraying so far. I want her to be more like the movie - strong, doesn't say a lot, but is friendly and kind and considerate of others.
My goal for right now is to find a niche for her in the house. Oddly enough I think her comic canon would be the best, and in the comics when she first arrived at the mansion, she was the housekeeper. So I'd like my Moira to be in charge of the house, keeping the kitchen stocked, that kind of stuff. I also want her educated in genetics, since comic Moira has a Ph.D. in it. I think that will involve Hank, so I'm planning on talking to his mun about that.
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All right, now that's a more specific start. Some starting directions from there are: why was she strong? What was driving her? How did she express her considerateness? How have you not? That way you can highlight in your mind things to avoid in the future. And every tag, before you hit send. Ask yourself, would the Moira from the movie say/do this?
You know, those two things are mutually exclusive. To get a degree in genetics, she will need to be away from the house for semesters at a time. (And Charles may have a degree, but he cannot educate her on his own, not when he has an entire nascent school for mutants and time-travelers to take care of. Not to mention that his last statement was that he wants to have as little to do with her as possible.) So at the very least you ( ... )
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Yes, considering possibilities is good. Just also consider what they mean. Becoming knowledgeable in genetics does not get limited to reading about it. There are also things that need to be seen and experimented on. And it takes years. Things like that!
*nods, sends hugs* Not getting stuck in the same mistake is good. Seeking out new horizons is awesome.
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