Thoughts about workers

Apr 12, 2011 00:18

Was having a chat with JX about Singaporeans not willing to become a carpenter or technicians or even cooks in Singapore ( Read more... )

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sakura_no_kage April 11 2011, 17:01:33 UTC
Did you just get your tv fixed by a nice shu shu?

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kakashi_hatake_ April 11 2011, 17:03:44 UTC
it's not that no one wants to do manual labour. it's that wages are so suppressed by FT that few people think it's worth it at those wage levels. the govt's open door policy have landed us in a vicious cycle - now we can't live without FT, but can't live with them either.

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jemtoh April 11 2011, 17:32:25 UTC
Agreed. Just consider the loan one needs to buy a hdb flat. Can you do it on a carpenters salary?

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mightymouse21 April 12 2011, 00:09:49 UTC
we used to.. now cannot.
and I wanna push all the blame to the gahmen. Seriously we have all achieved superb growth in standard of living, but they forgot about sustainability, even an average Singaporean can hardly pay for their own flat.

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mightymouse21 April 12 2011, 00:04:16 UTC
agreed! and vicious cycle indeed...
was just thinking if all these could be reversed if changing the values taught to the younger ones help...

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yongquan86 April 12 2011, 01:20:28 UTC
i think every country should have a gradient in things.. singapore dont have.. everyone's education so high.. who would want to do it?

my bro told me he felt weird seeing ang mo coming out from construction sites in aus.. are sgreans able to take it as a job? or is it status?

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mightymouse21 April 13 2011, 23:40:34 UTC
Singapore's one is a steep gradient. should shave the top and feed the bottom...

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shroudemonix April 12 2011, 14:22:13 UTC
i agree with kks.

the angmoh give alot more respect to a lao jiao carpenter or builder, and what they earn can actually sustain a family, and the wages goes up with experience. Yet something lidat wont work in sg anymore, as everyone is moving towards "knowledge-based society". I'm not saying it's wrong (considering i'm training in a company which embodied such values) but in the process menial work are sacrificed.

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mightymouse21 April 13 2011, 23:45:38 UTC
thats wrong right? because we can only be a sustainable economy if we do not rely on others so much on these menial stuff right?
Because we cannot be importing more people in forever, give us another 30 years, we will need another (bigger) batch of foreigners to form the base for these menial work.

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shroudemonix April 14 2011, 01:12:16 UTC
i see that modern society ain't built on sustainability. there's a whole myriad of issues, as long as whoever lobbied for it and it generate income/interest sufficiently, it's to stay.
i think one reason why we're banking on the knowledge-based society notion is the lack of everything other than people, and having people as the only well, natural resource we can exploit (to climb higher up in the so-called modernized world) the best way to exploit them is to exploit intelligence rather than physical strength.

one way leads to another and this is what that's happening.

the solution might be simple but it's not possible as it doesn't translate to more returns. humans don't see pass their own and maybe the next generation.

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seow_boon April 12 2011, 18:37:42 UTC
Hmm I think if the government readjusted the wages to have a minimum in these skilled labour jobs then it wouldn't be so bad.

Unfortunately we are too proud to take up such jobs and honestly parents wouldn't let their kids even think about these jobs even if there were actual people who aspired to be builders or carpenters.

They will just force them to learn science and math...

I aspired to be a farmer, but I wasn't born in the right place.

I think it would be quite nice to have your own orchard or crops and animals to tend to.

Then can join 'the farmer wants a wife.'

Hahahaha....

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