Movie round up

[mimesh]

Has anybody seen Tim Burton's Alice In Wonderland yet? I had mixed feelings after watching it. While it was overall entertaining and had some beautiful visuals and a few (but not enough) Burtonesque trademark characters, it lacked the magic many of his earlier works had. The technical possibilities didn't really work in his favor. But Johnny was

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[anansie_s]

I have wanted a near dark icon for so long! *grabs* thank you &hearts

He's really incredibly pretty in Near Dark, and yes it's a bit strange. I think part of it is just all the contrasts between his more masculine features and then his massive bambi eyes?

I'd be so curious to know what a neutral audience would think as well, of Order of Chaos. I'm past the point of pretending I can be objective but I really do think that Milo's character comes off as less icky, at the end.

[mimesh]

You are welcome. :D Aww, I want to coo at baby Pasdar when I'm seeing him smiling so prettily in my journal.

The striking masculine/feminine contrast is definitely part of it but it's also his natural charisma that comes of as unconventional. He is way more traditionally masculine in Heroes.

Perhaps I should check out some reviews, although I haven't really seen any.

[cadesama]

I haven't seen... well, any of those movies yet, but I will say I've been pretty trepidatious about Alice in Wonderland. It just doesn't look like anything interesting. Another effects spectacular that doesn't get to the heart of what was strange and endearing about the source material. And a lot of the look actual reminds me more of Mirrormask than of Burton's own style, which is odd. Of course, I'm not a huge Burton fan to begin with. I still consider his Batman movies to be crimes.

And of course, I can only say awwwwwwww to Milo and the kitty. Two of my favorite things!

[cadesama]

LOL, bias as a cat person aside, movies use cats and dogs as different signifiers at different times, and it sounds like they were using that guy's dog as a sign that he's secretly a dick. I mean, it's not hard to see the symbolism of a guy having a pet merely for it's blind loyalty, and not even being kind to it on top of that. I mean, plenty of movies do try to sell the whole dog person=good and loyal and cat person=aloof, independent, and mean thing but... come on. If you have a cat, it's probably because you want to cuddle it.

[commen_sense]

I hear you on Order of Chaos, the movie was boring. the only good thing was milo. i wasnt aware of what was going on half of the time; i was too busy drooling over milo. he was so frickin hot

or if the effect the actors had on screen worked against both of their roles.

maybe... milo makes it so easy to love him even when he's the bastardly villain :P But I doubt John could ever have been intended as the audience favorite. He was too creepy and blank IMO :/

LOVE the icons!!! :D so pretty!

[mimesh]

I found it hilarious that he had to play opposite such a tall guy again. Poor Milo. Not everyone can be so perfectly size matched like the Petrelli clan.

I don't understand why anybody would want to make a movie about characters nobody cares about, though. Giving the title their intent was perhaps to show that everyone has a nasty, competitive, destructive side given the right stimulation. Still doesn't make me like the character or movie more.

[mumblemutter]

the lost boys is aces! i remember, wow at some point totally reading slash about the brothers? it was great...and possibly my first incest ship ever, though the fandom was tiny and i think really there was maybe like, one writer that i read? this was back when fandom was still on mailing lists and i guess incest was slightly more taboo?

[mumblemutter]

i've not seen it in years, i fear that all the magic will be lost! perhaps that should be next on our list of re-watches. ahh, i might have been thirteen-fourteen when i first watched it, i don't know, but it was one of the first movies that i truly loved for mood more than anything else? and no omg not the frog brothers ew. sammy/michael, yes, mostly here, i really enjoyed audrey lemon's works - i think i read her first on that mailing list i mentioned, i'm glad it's still on the internet, things tend to go missing often times!

(...i feel i should warn? i don't know how old sammy is? if i'm not wrong the brothers aren't that far apart in ages, but they're both in high school when it starts, so yes, warning!)

[cadesama]

Having now seen Order of Chaos, I think a neutral audience would probably agree with us. I think the casting was deliberate, based a lot on looks, having John start out looking like an everyman but totally sleazing it up later on and Milo there to look sharp and dangerous, but potentially honest by the end. (The moment where the boss says Rick must be 10 if she's 30 was gold; the look on his face!) It's an interesting movie, but I'd say incomplete. Purposefully, of course, but leaving people hanging wondering whether John is just a nutbar, or if this is supposed to represent how all men can be driven to the edge, or if Rick really was out to get him... that's something a film maker can only do after earning the audience's trust. I didn't trust them throughout the film. I didn't trust that they wouldn't dive off the deep end, have John kill his fiancee and boss and support his claim that he was the victim. I feel that, by the end, the most sensible interpretation is that John, as an individual, is at fault for all his own problems. But

[cadesama]

Your icon is a beautiful, beautiful thing.

(And how crazy is it that this movie made me look up both the requirements of entrance to the Bar and Hate Crimes legislation?)

[mimesh]

I didn't trust that they wouldn't dive off the deep end, have John kill his fiancee and boss and support his claim that he was the victim. I feel that, by the end, the most sensible interpretation is that John, as an individual, is at fault for all his own problems. But I also feel like the narrative leaves that question too open. If that makes the slightest bit of sense at all.

I know exactly what you mean and tried to say that more or less in my comment to missy. And you are absolutely right about your sensible suggestion to work out this characterization by showing us that beach date. His shirtlessness would have been absolutely pivotal to explore different facets of his character.