Comments | minnow_53: Fic: Thirteen (NC-17)

minnow_53

Fic: Thirteen (NC-17)

May 28, 2007 12:35

Thirteen
by minnow_53

Disclaimer: The HP characters belong to JK Rowling and various corporations.
Rating: NC-17
Pairings: Remus/Sirius, Remus/others.
Summary: Remus is with Sirius, but obsessed with young girls.
Genre: AU
Warnings: Where do I start? AU, chan, dub con/non con, het, demonising of a beloved HP character... This is far from being a ( Read more... )

warnings, au

Comments 80

fleshdress May 28 2007, 12:37:38 UTC

I thought this was very well-written indeed. It was unflinching and unprettified. I only wonder if you actually needed it to be HP. I mean, it works without that backdrop and I kind of got hung up on making the parallels when really I wanted to be focusing on just how insidiously ugly the life was that you painted. Brilliant stuff, though. :)

minnow_53 May 28 2007, 12:50:46 UTC

Oh, thank you very much! :) I've been sitting here with my finger poised over the Delete key... :D

Yes, I have the same problem with the HP link. This was solidly conceived as fanfic, with its genesis in the Tonks/Remus age-difference. But I must admit that when I'd actually written it, I did wonder whether it shouldn't actually stand on its own. I'll probably recast it with more original characters at some point, and a bit of different background.

magnetic_pole May 28 2007, 13:29:44 UTC

Hm. Interesting, Minnow ( ... )

minnow_53 May 28 2007, 13:58:24 UTC

Oh, thank you very much! :) That's an absolutely amazing comment.

Well, as I said to Fleshdress, this was certainly conceived and written as fanfic, with the HP characters solidly in mind. What happened was that Remus ran away with me a bit and became a lot less sympathetic than he was meant to be. In the first draft, he started off quite nice, and Sirius left him and he drifted. Then, he gradually got meaner and meaner...

But I suspect you're also relying a bit on the reader's residual sympathy for "Remus" (even in this AU context) to drive home the tragedy

I must admit, I do like having an unsympathetic protagonist, because it's much more challenging to get into his head. And obviously, this is going to be a problem with readers: so I suspect you're right about my relying on the real character to smooth over some of the very jagged edges.

No, I won't backdate! I find it very hard to keep my nerve with fic posting, though. I'd never make a good internet stalker. :(

stellastars May 28 2007, 13:43:02 UTC

Wow -- what an intense read. Wonderfully-written and no sugar-coating for the subject. And so interesting, connecting Remus and Dora in this manner.

I'm sort-of of two minds about it being an HP fic... One the one hand (as you mention in comments above) it could certainly stand on its own. But on the other hand, I wonder if it makes the story just that more intense, entering into it with ideas about Remus and then finding him so different here with the comparison.

This is brilliantly creative -- I find it very exciting that people can still take HP as a starting point and go in so many, many different directions.

I'm glad I had a chance to read this -- it's one of those fics that makes you take time after reading it and really think and contemplate. Very nice.

minnow_53 May 28 2007, 14:03:14 UTC

Thank you very, very much for such an amazing comment! :) This fic couldn't have existed without Remus/Tonks in HBP, and I must admit I would find it hard to see anyone besides Remus, or this version of Remus, in the centre, because he was so much in mind, obviously, when I was writing it.

I find it very exciting that people can still take HP as a starting point and go in so many, many different directions.

That's what I love about HP! I think that JKR has created such an amazing and varied universe that one could really explore it forever. I hope Book 7 will bear this out...

stellastars May 28 2007, 14:23:00 UTC

I hope Book 7 will bear this out...
Me too!

*hugs*

shaggydogstail May 28 2007, 13:54:11 UTC

This is so very much not the sort of thing I would normally read, but I am hugely impressed by it. It was quite a difficult read, in a way that a story like this should be difficult, and that made the whole thing very believable, and disturbing. Well done.

minnow_53 May 28 2007, 14:08:26 UTC

Thank you very much for reading and commenting! :) It isn't exactly a pleasant subject, is it? :( But sometimes these things come along and insist on being written. Really, I was probably just looking for a new way to kill off Tonks.

beckaandzac May 28 2007, 14:17:26 UTC

I really want to leave detailed, coherent feedback, but I'm not sure I'm capable of it just now. I have little sympathy for any of the people in this story, which is a painful thing, more so because I can see how they're still Remus and Sirius, just gone wrong.

Don't delete it. Don't backdate it. It's a very good story, but very scary. And I'm wondering where it came from, how you got the characters to this point in your head. Because, well, it's not like most of what you write, is it?

minnow_53 May 28 2007, 14:41:42 UTC

That seems pretty great feedback to me! :) Thank you very much for reading and commenting.

This fic's been incubating for some time: a while ago, I was thinking about the age difference between Tonks and Remus, and the overall idea arrived. It just seemed very realistic that you could keep a similar gap and go back in time and then forward again to the point where Tonks and Remus meet. The characters weren't meant to be so unsympathetic originally, but I soon realised that Remus really had to be vile, because otherwise he couldn't act the way he does in the story.

It's not like most of what I write, no! But it is like some of my RL writing, though usually I do try and include some lighter stuff. This one ran away with me a bit.