The smoking ban

Nov 09, 2005 12:14

Are people really this easily duped ( Read more... )

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tschuler November 9 2005, 20:27:12 UTC
Yeah... it amazes me how politics have turned smokers into evil demons bent on giving everyone cancer. People seem to forget that this is a nation of choice. You have a choice whether or not to go into that bar that allows smoking. You have a choice whether or not you want to work there. A business owner has a choice on whether or not they want to allow it.

Sometimes, I really hate King County.

At least they'll never be able to enforce the 25 foot rule.

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minstrel_dave November 9 2005, 20:30:02 UTC
I say we set up a time on a busy saturday night and have every smoker in every bar downtown go out to the middle of the street and light up, and then all leave and flood the casinos with paying customers.

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schmi November 9 2005, 21:53:33 UTC
Are there non-smoking bars? I'm curious!

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minstrel_dave November 9 2005, 22:14:37 UTC
All of them are now. but before the ban there were quite a few, off the top of my head, the celtic bayou in redmond, the steel pig (both locations), st. andrews in greenlake, the west 5 in west seattle, greenlake bar & grill, and McMenamins on roy. a lot of restaraunts that had smoking bars are non-smoking too like applebees and red robin.

fado irish pub has a large non-smoking section, and kells downtown is non-smoking in half the bar.

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cthulu_bunny November 10 2005, 00:25:47 UTC
What really irritates me is that for voters it's essentially people playing favorites with drugs.

Drunk driving and alchohol related deaths far exceed "second hand smoke" deaths in the US.

This isn't about safety, it's about ignorance... and that's truly sad.

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gothkittyn November 10 2005, 00:38:18 UTC
My main problem is not that you won't be able to smoke in bars, but that the 25 foot rule is too restrictive. 10 feet is enough to avoid smoke drifting inside. 25 feet is just too restrictive.

Also something I am curious about, would this apply to hotel rooms? (such as at Con) or the Mercury which is a private, members only club? Something I should look into. Hmmmm...

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minstrel_dave November 10 2005, 15:59:50 UTC
This wouldn't apply to hotel rooms, according to state and federal laws your hotel room is legally your home while you're staying there so anything you can do at home you can do in your room. Hotels are of course allowed to set policies regarding non-smoking rooms but they can't stop you or even kick you out, they can nail you with a fine though for damage to the room.

side note:
After the renovation at the doubletree only the third floor lakeside suite will be smoking, unless we can get some special dispensation from the hotel biohazard will be non-smoking since we're on the first floor.

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gothkittyn November 10 2005, 16:55:30 UTC
lame. :(

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tmercenary November 10 2005, 03:30:44 UTC
only hostlie revolution will ever change the world.

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minstrel_dave November 10 2005, 16:01:12 UTC
Or semi-hostile revolution, voting from rooftops is pretty effective at keeping idiots out of office, unfortunately there's no one person that can be blamed for this one, it was the voters themselves that were duped into it.

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squishthekitten November 11 2005, 03:31:49 UTC
I say we all get together and smoke in the middle of some street to protest this new law. Because most of the time 25 feet will be in the middle of the street!

Either that or we can all make a stand for civil rights by lighting up in a restaurant with signs and get arrested. Like Martin Luther King Day! We are a minority now, and discriminated like one as well.

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