I was debating on whether or not I actually wanted to address this in an lj post, but I've been itching for a good rant for a while now and at least this topic is unlikely to offend anyone on my flist
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i know the person and the updates you mean i think. I consider the person a friend even if it is just on the interwebz and i was actually quite shocked by what she said
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Ironically I always sort of disliked her anyway for silly petty reasons but at least now I have some actual reasoning for it.
What you said about the fact that she doesn't live in the coutries with the starving children, that is so true. I just...I got so outraged over those comments because you know what, whether you're gay, straight from California or not you can still be outraged over a lack of equality. I'm not from Afghanistan...does that mean I don't get to be outraged over the fact that you can be put to death for being gay over there?!
I just wanted to butt in slightly and say I considered her a friend aswell and I never EVER argue with people over the internet cus I think it never really gains anything but I couldn't sit back and let her say something so, well, outrageous.
I pointed out that starving people in the world doesn't directly affect her so why is she bothered but it seems she failed to see my point.
I get why you didn't wanna say anything but also I feel like I'm the only one who did say anything and she's made me out to be some sensitive touchy person :( and i'm not (well I am but not the point :P)
I spoke to another friend who is also a friend with this person and she too was shocked by it. It was maybe more shock that i didn't respond to what she said and i just wasn't in the mood to get into a slagging match at that point cause i know it would have dissolved into that cause i've been a mouthy bitch lately and can't hold my tongue. Not that she wouldn't have deserved it for what she went on about.
If she couldn't see the point you made it makes me less inclined to say something about it as she seems happy with moronic views and she can keep them for all i care if thats the person she really is.
Im just going to update twitter with lots of anti prop 8 stuff to piss her off cause obviously i want to be fashionable.
I don't know, maybe i will mention something cause it did really piss me off. God, indecisiveness is my fucking superpower or something!
I haven't been following the whole deal, but I heard the news yesterday through Ellen Degeneres' twitter and it got me so upset. I'm not affected at all by it, not living in the States and being straight, I know. But I feel strongly about everyone having the same rights and it really makes me sad to know some people are legally denied the right to love. It's just senseless, and I instantly thought of what you'd have to say about it, since I've followed the subject pretty much basically on your LJ updates. I think the fact that you care about something that doesn't directly affect you is actually a sign of selflessness and devotion, and caring about other people. I don't know this person but I'd certainly be glad if someone I know or care about is showing concern over other people. It's grown up, it's mature, and it's the opposite of selfish and selfabsorbed. You should be proud of yourself, if anything.
Exactly, this is the thing that annoyed me about those comments, because how dare someone try and say that a, we're only concerned about this issue because its fashionable right now, and b) that it doesn't matter if we care if we're not from the state or gay ourselves...
Oh wait, did you not get the memo that said we were only ever allowed to feel about matters that affected us directly?
Does that mean because my uncles were the subject of racial attacks when they were young that i'm allowed to be involved in racial matters? or does it actually have to affect me as a person?
Are you fucking kidding me? I don't think I even have the energy to preach to the choir about this. I don't consider myself straight but even if I did, IT DOESN'T MATTER. I'd like to think if segregation was still happening in America we'd all give a fuck about that too, even though you and I are English and white. May I ask who it was? God this makes me so fucking angry I can't even explain, and I know you know how I feel so I'm not going to bother typing it all up. My mind is giberish with rage right now.
I just...I think that comment about black people complaining about racism and slavery was the comment that tipped me over the edge. Because it is so utterly ridiculous to suggest that just because you're not part of this group or minority, or don't happen to live where something apalling is happening you can't be concerned or outraged over it.
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I obviously agree with everything you've said.
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What you said about the fact that she doesn't live in the coutries with the starving children, that is so true. I just...I got so outraged over those comments because you know what, whether you're gay, straight from California or not you can still be outraged over a lack of equality. I'm not from Afghanistan...does that mean I don't get to be outraged over the fact that you can be put to death for being gay over there?!
Sigh.
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I just wanted to butt in slightly and say I considered her a friend aswell and I never EVER argue with people over the internet cus I think it never really gains anything but I couldn't sit back and let her say something so, well, outrageous.
I pointed out that starving people in the world doesn't directly affect her so why is she bothered but it seems she failed to see my point.
I get why you didn't wanna say anything but also I feel like I'm the only one who did say anything and she's made me out to be some sensitive touchy person :( and i'm not (well I am but not the point :P)
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If she couldn't see the point you made it makes me less inclined to say something about it as she seems happy with moronic views and she can keep them for all i care if thats the person she really is.
Im just going to update twitter with lots of anti prop 8 stuff to piss her off cause obviously i want to be fashionable.
I don't know, maybe i will mention something cause it did really piss me off. God, indecisiveness is my fucking superpower or something!
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I think the fact that you care about something that doesn't directly affect you is actually a sign of selflessness and devotion, and caring about other people. I don't know this person but I'd certainly be glad if someone I know or care about is showing concern over other people. It's grown up, it's mature, and it's the opposite of selfish and selfabsorbed. You should be proud of yourself, if anything.
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Does that mean because my uncles were the subject of racial attacks when they were young that i'm allowed to be involved in racial matters? or does it actually have to affect me as a person?
what.a.muppet.
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I just...I think that comment about black people complaining about racism and slavery was the comment that tipped me over the edge. Because it is so utterly ridiculous to suggest that just because you're not part of this group or minority, or don't happen to live where something apalling is happening you can't be concerned or outraged over it.
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