ok, i have real input, i think. your friend theholycow has a sorta rosey view of a somewhat sinister thing in patriotism. You see, Mr. Theholycow, i really think that you are describing just one side of patriotism and crafting your own interpretation of what it means to be a patriot based on how you feel this country should be headed and how it was founded. Patriotism is "Love of and devotion to one's country" according to Dictionary.com. Why would someone love a country, i mean really all that this country can be is an assemblage of beuacracy, laws and arbitrary borders, i mean, this is the melting pot, the united states' inhabitants are by no means linked by common language, ethnicitym, ideology or any other means. Why should i love the beuacracy? Mr. Theholycow said he doesn't love this administration but i think that this country IS this administration, it makes the calls and appoints the heads of all the little departments and offices who make all the decisions regarding how this place is run, and sometimes who lives and who
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also, as always, you know more about EVERYTHING than i do and i am beginning to think that i should just let you do my thinking for me (i am only being a little bit sarcastic, i am in awe of how well informed you are constantly, about everything.)
as for faith for the future? let's be real, denny, you know that i am probably the most naive and idealistic person any of us knows - you know i think that things are going to turn out well with a little bit of work. i just get frustrated in the meantime.
i heart you, please please come see me or just call up and chew my ear off for a bit?
a few points...theholycowJune 18 2004, 04:25:13 UTC
I agree with pretty much everything you say... I just have a few points on some of it, mostly what you said directly responding to me (of course :o) and some response the the liberal vs. conservativism
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yah you are right, i did conflate republican/democrat with conservative/liberal, i knew it as i was doing it, but i didn't really see you guys pointing out what either term meant, so i just assumed that you, much like the general public. but i challenge you to define conservative/liberal outside the context of policy advocacy, atleast in this country
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y'all wrote so much in just 1 day.
GO PISTONS.
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also, as always, you know more about EVERYTHING than i do and i am beginning to think that i should just let you do my thinking for me (i am only being a little bit sarcastic, i am in awe of how well informed you are constantly, about everything.)
as for faith for the future? let's be real, denny, you know that i am probably the most naive and idealistic person any of us knows - you know i think that things are going to turn out well with a little bit of work. i just get frustrated in the meantime.
i heart you, please please come see me or just call up and chew my ear off for a bit?
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