Thinking back to when we used to have at least one blizzard a year during the winter, winter before last where it was so warm that I only had to wear my coat once, and two weeks ago when it was 80 degrees IN APRIL...I am honestly baffled about why anyone would think global warming is a myth. o_o
I'm not sure if you're saying as much, but I don't think it's a myth. I more or less operate under the assumption that the global temperature is warming, and sure, I can roll with 'it's man-made'. I'm just of the mind that it can be controlled, and that the panic scenarios tossed around tend to be far more mythical.
"Coolest Winter Since 2001 For U.S., Globe, According To NOAA Data"
Global warming people would argue 'That doesn't prove global warming is a myth! Temperatures, even national ones, can fluctuate!' Sure. Conversely, 'It was pretty warm last winter' doesn't do much to prove GW either. But both sides love to take incidental weather and make the data do work it's not meant to.
That was a comment about "I'm willing to believe in global warming", not the article. And not really even at what you said, I meant in reference to people who are adamant that global warming doesn't exist. We're on a globe and it's getting warmer. Is the warming in everyone's imagination or do they think that this is natural and we did nothing to contribute?
It wasn't me trying to say that you really don't believe in global warming or that the article implies it isn't real, I was just being a smartass.
It doesn't say that global warming is mythical, only that * Oceans may retard the rate of change or even make it go negative * There's still a lot of CO2 out there, and that probably isn't good
The headline suggests a temporary delay, which seems realistic.
My interesting take-home point is that today, we are seeing the sum total of relatively minor effects: a food price spike that causes a lot of unrest.
If a one degree Celsius change affects rainfall patterns and crop growth to the point where one nation or region has poor harvests for three years in a row, that's going to cause some serious strife.
Any change tends to lead to some strife. Henry Ford's efforts caused tremendous problems for horse raisers. Also jews.
But 'climate' is only one factor of many, 'changes' are going to happen whether we do nothing or something, and I find doomsday scenarios (especially ones that take 50-100 years to actualize) to be unbelievable. I like the recent food price spike; it alerts us to problems, suggests solutions, and encourages a response. But I think we'd both agree that 'OH GOD WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF FOOD EVERY MAN FOR HIMSELF' wasn't warranted, even though some of the headlines came close to that.
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But for reference: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/03/080314175834.htm
"Coolest Winter Since 2001 For U.S., Globe, According To NOAA Data"
Global warming people would argue 'That doesn't prove global warming is a myth! Temperatures, even national ones, can fluctuate!' Sure. Conversely, 'It was pretty warm last winter' doesn't do much to prove GW either. But both sides love to take incidental weather and make the data do work it's not meant to.
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It wasn't me trying to say that you really don't believe in global warming or that the article implies it isn't real, I was just being a smartass.
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It doesn't say that global warming is mythical, only that
* Oceans may retard the rate of change or even make it go negative
* There's still a lot of CO2 out there, and that probably isn't good
The headline suggests a temporary delay, which seems realistic.
My interesting take-home point is that today, we are seeing the sum total of relatively minor effects: a food price spike that causes a lot of unrest.
If a one degree Celsius change affects rainfall patterns and crop growth to the point where one nation or region has poor harvests for three years in a row, that's going to cause some serious strife.
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But 'climate' is only one factor of many, 'changes' are going to happen whether we do nothing or something, and I find doomsday scenarios (especially ones that take 50-100 years to actualize) to be unbelievable. I like the recent food price spike; it alerts us to problems, suggests solutions, and encourages a response. But I think we'd both agree that 'OH GOD WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF FOOD EVERY MAN FOR HIMSELF' wasn't warranted, even though some of the headlines came close to that.
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