Lesson learned today as well as over the course of this semester.

[mlbsu]

Women are in relationships as long as they can manipulate the guy. As soon as that stops, they get bored and move on

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[bsumouse]

A wise man once said "Either you a bitch or you a ho."

Every girl I've ever been involved with at BSU has held true to the above statement. Some of them have even qualified for both! Anyways, dude, I feel your pain.

Interesting...

[somethinglike]

While my inner feminist was initially offended, I would have to say that I agree.

--Bitch

Re: Interesting...

[somethinglike]

(Some would have called me a ho, but it just isn't true.)

[mimi01135]

That kind of hurts my feelings, Matt.

Ask my boyfriend and I don't think he'll agree with you.

[mlbsu]

You've been in a relationship long enough to not fall under this belief system. As many of my friends know it seems to be the taken ones i'm attracted to and that is exactly why...they are the easiest to dissociate from that stigma.

[sistersnowpea]

Compromise with all the "good girls" out there who will post and tell you you're wrong. Say 95% of girls are like that. Honestly, there are genuine girls out there looking for the ideal relationship. The problem is, they can't find it, so they lower standards and become bitches. Also, guys aren't innocent in tha either. *has a whole long theory on relationships*

A matter of perspective

[somethinglike]

You are quite right, although your perspective is a little skewed. With most girls, the manipulation isn't really the point. It's about your power (you being the guy) to do emotional damage. Once the girl starts caring in a significant way she is in danger--and you know this because it works both ways. If you invest yourself in someone, it hurts when they (insert vile behavior here). Now, if you break things off before it gets to that point, not only do you save yourself that next piece of emotional baggage, but you get all the cool stuff (sex, free shit) that comes in the initial stages of dating.

Yes, women will hurt you if they get the chance. But so would the guy. Whoever does the hurting first is in the power position. That's why guys that are assholes get the girls. They do the hurting; they have the power. Again, this works both ways. Didn't you ever wonder why you were attracted to bitches? Yep, that's right--they have the power.

[mlbsu]

I must say I'm a little shocked as to the posts thus far. When I went back and read what I posted I halfway expected to get yelled at by every single person who posted a comment to it. As far as the compromise goes, I made my compromise. I did this by stating that they were fine in a friendship sort of way for the most part. This of course doesn't hold true for all women, but I admit I get along with a vast majority of women, as long as no interest is had on either side.

Sarah, the power struggle thing makes perfect sense, and you've given me the perfect way to handle the next time I have a girl complaining to me about how said asshole treats her like shit but she continues to go back to him.

Those very same comments prove a point i've been trying to make for a long time. Nice guys really DO finish last. They are incapable of wining the "power struggle" so are permanently setting themselves up to get hurt.

And I think it's gonna be a long, long time...

[somethinglike]

Don't despair, Little Man. I said MOST girls (and if I didn't, I meant to). There are girls that get past this. There are girls that had wonderful father figures and girls that haven't been burned enough to be cynical. There also girls that have had it so bad that they can be truly appreciative when a nice guy comes along. Don't rush it. She'll come to you--just make sure to see her when she does.

Re: And I think it's gonna be a long, long time...

[mlbsu]

I'll keep it in mind....

and did you just call me Little Man...?

Re: And I think it's gonna be a long, long time...

[somethinglike]

*smiles*