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7th l o s t s o u l ~ [Voice]

May 16, 2011 21:48

[The last event left Cheyenne in a weird place and since then, she's been rather scarce around the village. Aside from getting food at one of the village restaurants, she's spent most of her time either in her apartment or in the forests just outside the village. Today, she's actually back to her usual spot: sitting on the edge of one of Luceti's ( Read more... )

monsters are people too, how does i emotion, !voice

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[Voice] semper_cogitans May 17 2011, 06:04:06 UTC

[Here, have a guy who has this question forefront in his mind much of the time.]

I think that a person is any individual or collective-being who possesses sapience, by Terran definition. A person does not have to look, act like, resemble or in any way emulate a human to be a person - a common misconception by those of my own species.

Additionally, there are many kinds of sapience; not all of them are human-like. In fact, many kinds of sapience are much different from human sapience.

[As an astrobiologist - and the boyfriend of a non-human sapient - these questions are extremely important to him.]

[Voice] mmmfilletofsoul May 26 2011, 06:18:35 UTC

I suppose that would make the question of interest. I wonder how, in a setting as diverse as Luceti, such a question has not yet been proposed?

[A pause.]

Unless it has been and was simply in writing.

[Voice] semper_cogitans May 26 2011, 08:24:03 UTC

It may have been, but if it was I do not remember answering it myself. Or even hearing about it.

...

I think it is definitely an important question. Not simply here, but in general. One should not take one's personhood for granted.

[Voice] mmmfilletofsoul May 27 2011, 08:40:05 UTC

I suppose. Though I do wonder, is it so important for a creature to be considered a person?

[Voice] semper_cogitans May 27 2011, 14:00:57 UTC

Considering that personhood is the cornerstone of much of sapient rights, I would say so.

If a person is considered to be less than a person, for whatever reason, horrid abuses of that person can follow from that kind of mindset.

[Softly, but with real vehemence:] My partner would know. His family has been treated downright hideously due to the fact that many humans refuse to see them as people.

[Voice] mmmfilletofsoul May 29 2011, 21:58:13 UTC

[There's a rather long pause here.]

...I suppose that is something I can understand.

Although my own situation was certainly different. I have always considered my treatment in my previous world to be a sort of fair trade, considering the crimes committed by my kind in the past and the present.

[Voice] semper_cogitans May 29 2011, 23:25:26 UTC

You should not be blamed for the crimes of your species...

... Though I suppose it is natural to want to take blame for it. After all, I find myself... apologetic for my own foolish species many times over, especially here.

[Voice] mmmfilletofsoul June 1 2011, 05:05:52 UTC

It is not so much taking blame as it is acknowledging the pain brought on by the existence of my kind. Being able to understand that pain separates me from my guiltless sisters.

[Voice] semper_cogitans June 1 2011, 05:41:42 UTC

Well... [Robert can understand that, to an extent. It's what he does with himself, right?]

Just... be careful that, in doing so, you do not devalue your own self, or make yourself out to be the one who caused these problems to begin with.

... Though you can certainly aim to right things, if you can...

[Voice] mmmfilletofsoul June 8 2011, 18:13:10 UTC

As I alluded to before, there was a time when I had been a source of pain for those living in my previous world. I do not hope to feign innocence in regards to my past.

[Voice] semper_cogitans June 8 2011, 19:31:29 UTC

You do not need to feign innocence, but at the same time, there is nothing to prevent you from working to assure it does not happen again.

As you said before, your ability to feel places you at a level above others of your species. In that case, then, it is important for you to work to maintain that.

... In any case, I hope that my answer has helped you in some way. Even if you do not consider yourself a person, I think you are one.

[Voice] mmmfilletofsoul June 10 2011, 02:24:39 UTC

You are not the only one to believe such a thing. There are more in the village who would consider me a person than those who would consider me a monster.

To be honest, I am not sure what to think of it.

[Voice] semper_cogitans June 10 2011, 07:17:55 UTC

Is it not positive to you at all, to be seen in this light?

Or... do you want to be seen as a monster...?

[Robert's tone is... tentative. Almost disbelieving, really.]

[Voice] mmmfilletofsoul June 10 2011, 07:29:06 UTC

[A pause.]

Suppose you spent your whole life believing yourself to be a person.

Now, suppose you found yourself in a situation where others consider you to be a monster instead. Furthermore, to be a person is now a "bad" thing, whereas you previously believed there to be little distinction between being a person and being a monster other than convenient identification.

Would you find it difficult to abandon all association with yourself as a person?

[Voice] semper_cogitans June 10 2011, 07:33:12 UTC

[This... is a deep question, and Robert has to carefully search himself for an answer.]

It... would be difficult, yes. Being a person, in that case, would be an important identification for me... perhaps. If I had had it that long, it would at least be an... enduring one.

... But in that case, if "monster" was both a more accurate and a more positive term... in the end, it w-would likely be one that I would take for myself.

Identities may be intrinsic, to a degree, but they are also... malleable.

[Voice] mmmfilletofsoul June 10 2011, 07:37:29 UTC

[Another pause.]

Forgive me if this question seems rather out of place, but how old are you?

[This is important.]

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