Sweet cheeses, am I gonna have read EVERYTHING you read?tashewolfJuly 26 2007, 16:43:19 UTC
OK, been many years since this one -- tho I can assure you, DO NOT even bother with the sequel.
Firstly, you need to put the novel into context -- oddly enough, this was written by a woman for her lover in the 60s (OK, I'm wrong, '54, just wiki'd it).
It's very much supposed to be just a fantasy as opposed to something that actually could or would happen, and apparently the writer herself found it to be hot. Not necessarily that she'd want to actually DO it, mind
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Re: Sweet cheeses, am I gonna have read EVERYTHING you read?mole_boyJuly 26 2007, 16:57:22 UTC
My point is really that submission through, well, what amounts to POW torture isn't very interesting.
Regardless as to who wrote it and whether or not they felt it was hot.
I'm not so much bothered by this as I am bored.
Oh goodness, I feel a Star Wars analogy coming on! In Ep 1-3, we see Annakin fall to the dark side. In the movies, this is primarily due to his need to save Padme. Blah. Boring. Worse still, while he certainly does do a few questionable actions, the conversion from hero to villain seems to happen in seconds. Blah. Boring. Zero depth. Made worse still by the fact that you can't begin to see what Annakin see's in Padme.
Now...in the novelization, Annakin feels the weight of the universe on his shoulders, the need to not just save Padme, but to save everyone. Worse still, he knows that he won't be able to. Its that knowledge that drives him to the dark side. Thats a little more interesting.
I mean, if there'd been a whit of chemistry between the actors... and Natalie weren't phoning it in... and the script didn't suck... and the actual conversion didn't happen in POINT FIVE FUCKING SECONDS... how much more powerful!!!
Eh, well, things that became classic, sometimes it's that they were extra powerful exactly because there was nothing else like em at the time. It's by default, yknow. More options now, tho not necessarily better -- oh wait -- scratch that.
This is fantasy and not technically erotica, but ya gonna tell me you know nothing about the Kushiel books? This would be a link to the first one. Very good on the fantasy and the erotic as well, I might say. Well-done purple prose, oodles of intrigue and fight scenes! Win-win.
Oh yeah, keep in mind there is a bizarre Judeo-Christian religious offshoot that plays a major part here. But these books are DEFINITELY fantasy, and so is the religion. Occurred to me you'd wanna know, tho, much as I found it quite inoffensive and intriguing.
Seriously? You should read the Episode III book. Don't get me wrong, it ain't high art, but it is MUCH MUCH better than the movies. I went through a thing where I read all three then rewatched.
Yeah, I do understand that the classics have to be taken in context, from an academic perspective. But I'm not sure you need to read them to write for the present.
ANYHOO, yah, my fiance loves the Kushiels books. Those actually sound interesting and with actual depth. I actually love reading stories that have strong religion in them. While I am a 9 kinds of die-hard atheist, I can't deny that, conceptually, religions tend to be really good stories.
(btw, she's also into the Laurel K. Hamilton books...not just Anita Blake...I guess there's a series out there where a bunch of faeries are in a comepetition to fuck as many people as possible?)
link for yoooouuuutashewolfAugust 16 2007, 05:59:16 UTC
I also hear, sometimes, about the desire to turn over all control of one's life to a higher authority, who will then direct one's every waking moment. To those people I say: Put down your copy of Story of O and step slowly away from it.
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Firstly, you need to put the novel into context -- oddly enough, this was written by a woman for her lover in the 60s (OK, I'm wrong, '54, just wiki'd it).
It's very much supposed to be just a fantasy as opposed to something that actually could or would happen, and apparently the writer herself found it to be hot. Not necessarily that she'd want to actually DO it, mind ( ... )
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Regardless as to who wrote it and whether or not they felt it was hot.
I'm not so much bothered by this as I am bored.
Oh goodness, I feel a Star Wars analogy coming on!
In Ep 1-3, we see Annakin fall to the dark side. In the movies, this is primarily due to his need to save Padme.
Blah.
Boring.
Worse still, while he certainly does do a few questionable actions, the conversion from hero to villain seems to happen in seconds.
Blah.
Boring.
Zero depth.
Made worse still by the fact that you can't begin to see what Annakin see's in Padme.
Now...in the novelization, Annakin feels the weight of the universe on his shoulders, the need to not just save Padme, but to save everyone.
Worse still, he knows that he won't be able to.
Its that knowledge that drives him to the dark side.
Thats a little more interesting.
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Eh, well, things that became classic, sometimes it's that they were extra powerful exactly because there was nothing else like em at the time. It's by default, yknow. More options now, tho not necessarily better -- oh wait -- scratch that.
This is fantasy and not technically erotica, but ya gonna tell me you know nothing about the Kushiel books? This would be a link to the first one. Very good on the fantasy and the erotic as well, I might say. Well-done purple prose, oodles of intrigue and fight scenes! Win-win.
Oh yeah, keep in mind there is a bizarre Judeo-Christian religious offshoot that plays a major part here. But these books are DEFINITELY fantasy, and so is the religion. Occurred to me you'd wanna know, tho, much as I found it quite inoffensive and intriguing.
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Yeah, I do understand that the classics have to be taken in context, from an academic perspective. But I'm not sure you need to read them to write for the present.
ANYHOO, yah, my fiance loves the Kushiels books. Those actually sound interesting and with actual depth.
I actually love reading stories that have strong religion in them. While I am a 9 kinds of die-hard atheist, I can't deny that, conceptually, religions tend to be really good stories.
(btw, she's also into the Laurel K. Hamilton books...not just Anita Blake...I guess there's a series out there where a bunch of faeries are in a comepetition to fuck as many people as possible?)
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http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/Content?oid=60288
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(btw, were you making an Overlord joke?)
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