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[mollymolekular]

How sad is this? I am fairly certain that the job in the faculty of Medicine has finally been posted. I THINK it's the right one. But it's only listed for internal applicants, the deadline for which was yesterday. I think. There are like sixteen bloody links on the page. I don't know whether to hold tight and wait for it to come up on the

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[ongoingstory]

I started writing you a reply, realized it was all about me, so i posted it in my journal.

I'm feeling you on the job thing. I'm really frustrated, too. I feel like I'm going to get stuck being a manager at a fast food restaurant or maybe just a cook. My degree is worthless. I fell into a field that accomplishments mean nothing and looks mean everything. They shoulda taught courses about getting bigger boobs and nice full hair at my school.

And on hiring internally, its like... what are you supposed to do? Work as a grunt when your experience level is far above grunt-status just to get INTO a company? I think that's bullshit in its own right. Anger!!!

[mollymolekular]

And this is NOT about you . . . how???

:)

Also, if it helps you can have MY big boobs. I don't find they come in handy too too often.

But seriously honey, you will never get stuck being a McManager if you don't want to be a McManager.

[ongoingstory]

I've gotten rejected from several marketing jobs now due to the fact that I'm not a warm comforting woman. That's just the facts. Our Public Relations group in town is 99% female. I'm a sensitive guy and yet I get looked over because I'm not a woman. I know I totally sound sexist, but this happens the same way to women when they apply for jobs that men typically have.

Yeah, it did turn into another rant about me, but I tried at the end, right? LOL.

[idadebeautreux]

I like that Gary Larson panels have now attained "proverbial" status.

[mollymolekular]

But of course :)

[bobbarker]

Don't underestimate initiative and energy. Go to the people that are posting this job. Bug them! Stand out! Show them that you are qualified, exceptional, and motivated to get this position. To hell with the submission rules. Ask them directly. Anyone that hires and has hired before wants someone that can do the job right and not make them look bad for their decision. They will post a job internally because of policy, but also because they think they know those people best first. You can break that thought by being dynamic.

Remember that a resume and application, all that it does is gets them to speak to you in person. But there are other ways to enhance your chance to get to speak to them in person.

[mollymolekular]

I totally agree. This isn't EXACTLY that kind of situation though. I sent a random email to this guy a couple months back, wanting to check out his lab. I gave him my resume, references, etc., and he called me in for an interview. He said he wanted to hire me to do research for his lab, but that policy dictated he had to publicly post the position (for current university - internal - workers first, then the general public). Basically, he said that unless someone came along that really bowled him over, the job was mine - he's MAKING the job for me, after all. But he is super stressed right now and I don't want to bug him . . . but I sure as HELL don't want to accidentally mess up the deadline or anything!

[bobbarker]

There is nothing wrong with periodically checking in with this guy, asking what you might be able to do more, or what the time line looks like for a decision to be made. If it is ambigious or you see other deadlines, of course it might look like you are bugging him. Lay it our concisely and if he doesn't have an idea of a timeline in his head, he might make one so you have a more definite answer.

Calling every day might be much, but make sure that you know that you are in the guy's mind when the decision is made.

[ex_nomoresci293]

Would it be wrong to call him up and see if that is in fact the job you think it is? It was sort of given to you already and the internal/external posting thing was just a formality. Why not call and ask how everything is going and what the timeline (before the offer is made to you) is like?

How many times HAVE you bothered him already, btw?

[mollymolekular]

I'm pretty sure it's the right job; the research matches and though it is a Tech2 position, usually requiring a MSc of Biochem or Molecular Bio is says "BSc required." You know, so a physical anthropologist could apply :)

I've bugged him pretty regularly, and I know he is beyond busy right now with getting the new term off the ground and grant writing. I'll send him an email tomorrow if the job's still not external and let him know I found it and am waiting.

[ex_nomoresci293]

I think that's an excellent idea. He sounds like a very patient and fun guy and pretty intent on having you in his lab.

*smiles*

(It was wnt pathway stuff, right?)

[mollymolekular]

You know, I can't for the life of me figure out WHY he's so intent on having me. I think Mo's excellent reference has something to do with it. And yeah, Wnt and some Hedgehog I believe.

[thecoldroom]

Is this the same interview you were not in your sound mind for?

[mollymolekular]

Indeed it is.

[thecoldroom]

Well if you're still in the running, you did a lot better than I would have. I would have been like, "Does this job come with chips? Also, I got cotton mouth something fierce. Care if I drink one of these beakers?"

[mollymolekular]

LMAO. Oh my God.