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pelgar March 22 2013, 05:52:43 UTC
An interesting article. "Another defense mechanism commonly utilized by supporters of gun control is denial."
I wish she hadn't used "supporters of gun control" though, because, and I may be mistaken, most people support gun control. We don't support prohibition. Nor do we support outrageous laws that will make a criminal out of someone working on a firing range who takes possession (however temporary) of another's ammo.

There is a wide gap between the "all guns are evil" crowd and the "there should be no laws regarding guns" crowd.

Unfortunately, the phrase "gun control" is taking on additional definitions that don't belong there and it ends discussions before they can truly begin.

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montieth March 22 2013, 16:58:17 UTC
I would not consider myself a gun control proponent. I don't like many malum prohibitum laws. Most gun control laws fall under that classification.

Most of the goals of gun control can be handled by Malum in se laws relating to actual acts vs trying to avoid bad acts by handwaving the event away with more laws.

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pelgar March 23 2013, 09:31:00 UTC
Exactly.

"It's against the law because it's against the law" is stupid.

And yes, most gun control laws are of that flavor of law. Especially here in Australia where "self defense" is not a valid reason to own a firearm.

"You can't have a gun because you've used guns in 32 different robberies and therefore you can't be trusted with a gun" on the other hand, is proper gun control.

Both the far left and far right love having the term "gun control" mean prohibition because it fuels both of their agendas.

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montieth March 23 2013, 16:26:59 UTC
"You can't have a gun because you've used guns in 32 different robberies and therefore you can't be trusted with a gun" on the other hand, is proper gun control."

No, that's an example of absurd crime control. That's because someone who's had that much of a crime career shouldn't be let out of crime on the trust that they won't be doing it again. Likewise, we shouldn't be "trusting" dangerous sexual predators and trying to track them with Sex Offender Registries that pick up anyone from the guy caught peeing in public to a child rapist in their broad sweep.

Parole was the concept that you gave your word that you would not transgress again, if you were caught doing it again your ass was not trusted a second time. If someone isn't trustworthy enough to be let out and have access to guns they're not trustworthy enough to be let out of prison at all.

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