A conundrum

Sep 15, 2008 23:22

I have something of an emotional paradox here and I'm hoping by posting it here I can get some feedback that might be able to help ( Read more... )

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baoh September 16 2008, 01:42:25 UTC
First thing is that I've noticed too many people think they can get away with anything. You can't break someone's trust, say you're sorry and expect things to just be magically OK. In this case, if the girl is in a relationship with guy A, she shouldn't be doing anything that could count as being more than friends with guy B. That's cheating. End of story. If she's cheating, guy A should stand up and say, this is over. Anything is just telling her that her actions were at least understandable, and she'll likely do it again (and again and again). To make things worse, she won't fuck guy A, but did fuck guy B. No matter the circumstances, you don't have sex with someone you're not in a relationship with if you are in a relationship. Basically, I'm big on waiting till marriage for sex, but what this girl did makes her a complete hypocrite. If she'll easily go and have sex with a guy she's not dating, but not with the guy she is dating, there's a serious issue with her relative to the relationship. Maybe she's dating Guy A for ( ... )

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moro_san September 16 2008, 06:29:39 UTC
From what it sounded like, she was in love with Guy 1 and in lust with Guy 2, but trusted both. Before that night she hadn't done any thing that would have been considered cheating. Guy 1 knew that she was attracted to Guy 2 almost as much as she was to him, but she wasn't interested in a relationship with Guy 2 ( ... )

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baoh September 16 2008, 06:55:39 UTC
Oh, I can think of worse things, but they would have to do with other really over the top bad things. It's not really about punishing anyone. Basically if it takes that little for her to betray Guy 1 (a really stressful/scary situation) and go have comfort sex with any one else, she will do it again sooner or later or something else very damaging of trust sooner or later. If Guy 1 stays with this girl, he's going to be in this horrible situation of lacking trust and potentially a self-destructive relationship. If he leaves, she may learn a lesson, she may just feel horrible, but it's what I would say is the correct response. There are so many people in the world that both the girl and Guy 1 and even Guy 2 can find someone who will be honest and trustworthy and worthy of their love and affection ( ... )

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moro_san September 16 2008, 07:30:00 UTC
I understand where your advice is coming from and I really appreciate it. Fortunatly this is a fictional situation and I'm really interested in, not so much your thoughts on the relationship, but your answers to those two questions.

1.) How do you make a girl who is convinced that she isn't good enough for you, understand that you love her and want to be with her despite what she insists are faults you won't be able to overlook?

2.)If she hurt you like that and you wanted to punish her, make her feel as bad as you do; but you still cared about her, what would you do?

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minawolf September 16 2008, 06:17:40 UTC
First of all, I'm not sure that a person can really tell if they belong with someone else after just a few months of dating. Everything for about the first year of dating is kind of new, assuming you take things slow. You're getting to know that person. Can you really know if that's the person you want to spend the rest of your life with in that short amount of time? I've been dating Craig for almost two and a half years now and I'm still learning things about him. Quirks that i never knew were there, interests I've never heard anything about. I think that the reason we have such a high divorce rate is that people blindly jump into these commitments and don't even know if they can stand the other person in close quarters first. So that's issue number one in my book. As a child coming from divorce and seeing what divorce does to people it's something I never want to bring upon others. I think waiting to have sex until marriage is a good thing, and finding a person in this day and age who will support you in that is amazing. Having ( ... )

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moro_san September 16 2008, 06:50:00 UTC
Think of it this way. You start hanging out with an old guyfriend from high school. Yeah you thinks he's hot, but you two have been dating for two years. You hangs out with him and you don't try to hide it, Craig is always aware of what's going on, but he isn't exactly going to make friends with this guy either. He also isn't going to say you can't be around this guy just because you're attracted to him, otherwise you'd never be able to see any guy you were attracted to and you'd probably resent him for it. Now you've known this guy for a while and you trust him almost as much as you trust Craig. One night Craig does something to scare you. I mean he really shows you a side of himself you'd never seen and it freaks you out. You're confused and don't know where to go, so you head towards someone you trust and feel safe with. He takes you in, listens to you cry, holds you and comforts you. You've always liked him, even wanted to date him in high school. You feel really close to him right now and you kiss him and it snowballs from there ( ... )

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minawolf September 17 2008, 05:58:26 UTC
No, I don't think Craig should take me back, but then it's also not in my personality to do that sort of thing in the first place. If Craig ever did something to really scare me, I'd either stand by and talk things out with him, or i'd go to someone like you or Todd, or Jen or someone. Even though I'd know that going to someone like those people would diminish their opinnion of Craig, but those are the people I trust most. The people whom I let see every side of me. And if I did do something like that and Craig did want me back, i'd let him, but i'd be riddled with my own guilt and constantly be trying to find ways to make it up to him. If i'm what would truly make him happy, I wouldn't deny him that. But I would be remourseful and probably drive him insane in trying to make it all better.

Keep reading what? Is this why Richard and Anita break up?

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moro_san September 17 2008, 07:18:31 UTC
*laughs* I know it's not in your personality to do something like this. ^.^

It's just a hypothetical situation I put you in. I'm just curious how other people react to the same emotional situation, so I can see if any of those helps me better understand how I feel.

In response to your last question, I'm not going to ruin too much, but it is a very, very generalized version of what happens. I won't discuss too much more until you've read through The Killing Dance, but I'm beginning to see a bit better as I read on. Think Anakin Skywalker.

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