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[motorway065]

I would just like to get it out here and now that I fucking despise people who are anti-vaccination: not only are they anti-science idiots who base their views on bad and/or faked studies, they're willing to deny their existant/potential children what is possibly the single most beneficial medical advantage created yet and turn them into plague

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[scarreddragon]

I absolutely think kids should be vaccinated, but I wouldn't ever give them a flu shot unless they wanted one. I don't know why this is, but in my head the flu seems like something that they could easily get over after a few days and that doesn't cause any complications unless they're sick, whereas most things we're vaccinated for can potentially cause a lot of damage and/or death.

At the same time, I think a lot of people find reasons to rebel against "mandatory" things. Why, I don't know, but if people can get out of something "mandatory" like immunizations and vaccinations using bullshit religion reasons, they do it.

[motorway065]

Yeah, flu shots are iffy in effectiveness and necessity, and they're not on the mandatory recommendation chart (at least yet) for a reason, so I can't blame people who are unsure about it/don't get it. (I fully disclose that I've never had one, myself -- my mom got one once and had a terrible reaction to it, so she never made me get one.)

For other ones? MMR? Polio? Yeah, get the shot, you don't have any excuse.

[scarreddragon]

Definitely. Especially the old ones that have been PROVEN effective. Brand new vaccination, long term effects not seen/tested? Ooookay, I can maybe see where you're coming from. But Polio?! Seriously.

[everythingonit]

Wait, there are ppl who don't get Polio? But the Polio vac works man!

If a vaccine works, is proven to actually eliminate something, or doesn't cause terrible widespread adverse reactions, something as low as 2 out of ten maybe, then hey, I'm for it.

But if it kills or infects more than it helps, then nono.

[everythingonit]

I disagree. Because if their children die, we can end the stupidity there.

[motorway065]

I don't think children should suffer due to their parents' idiocy. It's not like it's common for kids to grow up and their views to be a total 180 of their parents'.

Not to mention how not vaccinating kids hurts herd immunity, therefore putting not just the kids at risk, but EVERYONE at risk. Saying you have the right to not vaccinate your kid is like saying you have the right to start a 20-car pileup on the highway.

I'm reminded of this thread where parents were debating on whether to let their kids get chicken pox naturally or get the vaccine. There were a good number who wanted their kids to catch it young, but since chicken pox vaccination is becoming more and more common, their kids got so old without catching it that they had to vaccinate anyway.

[sirslashnhack]

I got the pox when I was a kid. I've got the scars to prove it.

Why any parent would willingly subject their child to that when there's an alternative readily available is completely and utterly beyond me.

[motorway065]

Most likely their experience with chicken pox was similar to mine, very easy, rash didn't spread to the mouth/windpipe/vaginal area, no complications, no scars, and hey got a week off of school to boot. They think that their experience is universal, and don't realize that it's a disease that can bring absolute misery to the person who has it, or in some cases kill them, or they think that the risk is so small that it'll never happen to their kid.

It will.

[sirslashnhack]

If a person decides not to get vaccinated themselves? That's fine. Their choice. They get infected, they die, and they have no one to blame but themselves for being an easily-led cow to the slaughterhouse.

The same idiot decides not to vaccinate their child, compromising the bodily defenses of the kid because of some stupid, poorly researched opinion?

They should have that kid taken away, and should get stabbed in the crotch enough times to make sure that they can't breed again.

[motorway065]

herd immunity bb

see my reply here