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mr_kobayashi

Politics

Jun 08, 2009 00:34

Some of you may be aware that I work in politics. I've just responded to a friends thoughts, I'd thought I'd put my general take on the scenario up here. Comments welcome. Constructive suggestions even more welcome. Please preserve my anonymity and don't refer to my real name ( Read more... )

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swiftblade June 8 2009, 06:31:16 UTC

Well, we are a Cyclical tyranny and we do lerch between parties and they have absolute control.

I'm not sure what point you're making, or what you're arguing for. Non party politics (as you know) is my answer.

P.S. When referring to Ancient Greeks you may need to be more specific, I believe that you are referring specifically to ancient Athens, Greece at the time being full of independent city states.

mr_kobayashi June 8 2009, 07:50:39 UTC

I was arguing for legislated restrictions of the whips, manifestos and the party's. But I wasn't agreeing that abolishing the party system, nor spoiling ballots is the solution. Decisions are made by those who turn up.

swiftblade June 8 2009, 09:27:06 UTC

I fail to see how legislating a failed system will fix it. It simply won't.

I heard a great thing on the news today about how Labour candidates will suffer if Gordon brown doesn't resign and it's true. Vote for the individual, not for the party or else the individual may as well be a mindless automon.

mr_kobayashi June 8 2009, 07:53:23 UTC

Update, the BNP has won its 2nd seat. My prediction - the PM will be ousted by the end of the week and we'll have a general before November (after the summer holidays at least).

thecreepshow June 8 2009, 08:07:36 UTC

i know this is a minority opinion but i like that nick griffin got to stand. Don't like the fact he got elected but it makes me feel better that if this guy can say what ever he likes and be listened to then all of us can as well.
I think politicians will always be beholdent to the whip and to the corporations that sponsor them and the only way out of this is to ensure constituents can remove their politician from office without having to wait for an election to do so. How this would be done fairly i don't know but ti seems the only way to remove the politics of self interest.

mr_kobayashi June 8 2009, 11:26:22 UTC

Your's is an opinion that I share. "I abhor what you say, but i will defend to the death your right to say it". I think in the long run, Mr Griffin and his parliamentary colleague will realise they've pasted a great big bullseye to themselves. The sooner the public get to see these fascists for what they are, the sooner their support will rapidly dwindle.