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Feb 16, 2006 21:40

Mikeman345: smallville
Mikeman345: have you ever watched it?
Almighty FarHead: no
Almighty FarHead: and i wont
Mikeman345: your SICK
Mikeman345: why not?
Almighty FarHead: no interest
Almighty FarHead: seems like a stupid concept
Mikeman345: get right out of here with that nonsense
Almighty FarHead: is on the wb
Mikeman345: you are ridiculous!
Mikeman345: stupid concept
Mikeman345: you get right out of here
Mikeman345: tom your out of control
Almighty FarHead: let's turn young superman into a teen pseudo-drama
Mikeman345: you have to be stopped
Mikeman345: yes, LET'S!
Almighty FarHead: let's not
Mikeman345: it's a teenager's life
Mikeman345: it's entirely believable
Mikeman345: for being a superhero jawn
Mikeman345: its like, hey let's show how a teen deals with his life...having super ppowers and all
Mikeman345: cyborg was on the episode just now
Mikeman345: it was the guy who was the famous jett jackson
Mikeman345: he tore stuff up
Mikeman345: a little bit
Mikeman345: there's teen drama in all comic books where the hero is a teen
Mikeman345: this is just in television form
Almighty FarHead: obviously it happens, it's a traditional storyline that permeates any form of entertainment
Almighty FarHead: the coming of age business
Mikeman345: get out of here with this "permeates"
Almighty FarHead: ie: spider-man being consistently emo as fuck
Almighty FarHead: problem
Mikeman345: spidemran is not a tough guy
Almighty FarHead: i dont like it when spider-man is emo as fuck
Mikeman345: so, this is how he is
Almighty FarHead: i realize it's a type of story
Almighty FarHead: and that type of story can be applied anywhere
Mikeman345: i wouldnt like to have powers and constantly have to try to hide it, WHILE trying to maintian a normal teen life
Mikeman345: i'd bve sad a l ot
Almighty FarHead: however, i dont have much interest in that type, not all the time at least
Almighty FarHead: furthermore, superman sucks
Mikeman345: yeah hes gay
Mikeman345: but still its neat
Mikeman345: i dunno i've always sad superman sucks but i dunno
Mikeman345: i used to sayt batman sucks but i like him now
Mikeman345: i would just say "aw batmans gay he has no powers"
Almighty FarHead: you used to suck
Mikeman345: but then i read into it and saw some more and turned
Mikeman345: and then i wa slike "aw superman's gay he has every power"
Mikeman345: but i rea dinto it more and saw more and i turned
Mikeman345: i never sucked
Mikeman345: i am the champion
Mikeman345: and always have been
Mikeman345: the CHAMPION
Mikeman345: i kept typoing "CHAMPION"
Mikeman345: point is
Almighty FarHead: here's my issue with superman
Mikeman345: im gonna follow this caus eim a nice guy
Almighty FarHead: my favorite aspect of hero stories is this
Almighty FarHead: and my reasoning i guess explains my love for batman
Almighty FarHead: in my opinion, the best superheros and the best superhero stories are those that rather than giving us these people powers and treating them as then literally superior humans, as above
Almighty FarHead: instead, give them powers
Almighty FarHead: but still show that they are humans
Mikeman345: SUPERMAN IS 100% THAT
Mikeman345: jesus christ
Almighty FarHead: superman by his very nature is so far above and beyond any level of humanity that i could never feel for him when he suffered human struggles
Almighty FarHead: he's not human
Almighty FarHead: he's barely even alien
Mikeman345: your heart is made of stone
Almighty FarHead: he's next to god-like
Almighty FarHead: it's too much
Mikeman345: not emotionally
Mikeman345: he isnt like powers...sorry guys it had to be done i will go fight more crime
Mikeman345: he's like "AW shit this is terrible i have to help people and there's emotion im NOT perfect everyone of my choices seems to only hurt me further"
Almighty FarHead: hurt him how?
Mikeman345: lhe's always sacrificing something to save the world
Mikeman345: like, save someone i love...or a lot of toehr people
Mikeman345: the choice of course is to save a lot of people
Mikeman345: but he's gotta give up a lvoed one
Almighty FarHead: if superman ever finds himself in a situation like that, then he's a dumbass
Mikeman345: like the one episode where lana died, then he went back in time and the universe had to baance itself as his space-dad said and his earth dad died
Almighty FarHead: superman by his very nature, if he were to use his powers right, would NEVER be in a situation where such a choice had to be made
Almighty FarHead: any issues he'd ever suffer would come only as a result of his own stupidity
Mikeman345: but he doesnt
Mikeman345: and THATS what makies it interesting
Almighty FarHead: his amount of powers is unimaginable
Almighty FarHead: he is literally nearly every other superhero put together at one point or another
Mikeman345: yeah
Mikeman345: and to balance that they put him in situations where even he is like o shit what do i do
Almighty FarHead: if he were to fuck up
Mikeman345: i cant believe im defending superman
Almighty FarHead: he could literally turn back time
Almighty FarHead: he's done it before
Mikeman345: that shit would not work in ocmics nowadays
Mikeman345: i know he did it befroe
Mikeman345: but they wouldnt let that slide again
Almighty FarHead: then reinvent him
Mikeman345: there are infinite cop-outs in comics
Almighty FarHead: as it stands now, superman very well could
Mikeman345: in the episode he turned back time there had to be a balance
Mikeman345: so he knows whateve r happens happens for a reason, and ot change it wouldnt really bring about a good solution
Almighty FarHead: he could literally turn back time infinite amounts of times until the best possible situation worked out
Mikeman345: even then the best wouldnt be good for him
Mikeman345: well in sallville the last time he tunred back time was his last cause the time crystals are all gone now
Mikeman345: so he went tback to save lana's life, only to have his dad die
Almighty FarHead: better than the best
Mikeman345: but still not good
Almighty FarHead: not time crystals
Mikeman345: even still
Almighty FarHead: that's a plot device developed by the show
Almighty FarHead: that's an alteration of the character of superman
Mikeman345: i'll sick dave on you about superman
Mikeman345: see what really happens
Almighty FarHead: if they've changed the character for the series into one with more limited powers
Almighty FarHead: MUCH more limited
Almighty FarHead: then there's some potential for this stuff being pheasible
Almighty FarHead: but if that isnt the case
Almighty FarHead: superman ever having a real issue is an issue of superman not knowing his full potential
Mikeman345: good!
Almighty FarHead: because his full potential is ludicris
Mikeman345: that makes for story
Mikeman345: yes
Mikeman345: nayhthing going wrong is his fault
Mikeman345: because he isnt perfect
Almighty FarHead: i dont wanna watch a series about superman getting into problems because he's a dumbass
Mikeman345: and therein lies the good shit
Mikeman345: i wouldnt wanna watch a genius get himself out of everything
Mikeman345: cause that would be boring
Mikeman345: i dont want a series where eeveyrthing is right in the world
Almighty FarHead: thus the issue of superman
Almighty FarHead: if he's having problems, he's being stupid
Almighty FarHead: if he's not, he's boring
Almighty FarHead: ::bow::
Mikeman345: throw this "bow" out the window
Mikeman345: right out
Mikeman345: and i wanna see you do it
Almighty FarHead: no can do
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