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Dec 13, 2006 16:16

So, I was reading in the pregnancy community and one of the frequent and highly volatile subjects came up yet again- Male Circumcision. Female circ' would be even worse obviously. However, it irritates me. I understand that their are pro people, anti people and people like me who are pro-choice. There are people on every side who have and have not ( Read more... )

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anthophilous December 13 2006, 21:29:37 UTC

when you have colds and such, does it affect the baby? Like does it get sick too somehow, or move more or something?

mrs_ladybug December 13 2006, 22:06:21 UTC

I don't think that it gets sick too but if you run a fever or take certain amounts and types of medication, it can affect the baby. Like my Aunt ran a little fever with my cousin Clay and he has some discolored skin because of it. That's all I really know. Its just best if you don't get sick while pregnant. She has been moving around more but I think that's just because I have been resting more to get rid of the cold. This gives her more room to move...probably not much but enough that she does seem to play more. A little happiness in an otherwise funky day

sarakenobi December 14 2006, 00:43:53 UTC

the reason we get sick I think is that our immune system is all about protectiong the uterus fortress. medicinescross the placenta etc, but I don't think colds affect the baby

gaffanon December 13 2006, 23:37:11 UTC

You know Im uncircumsized and I scrub and scrub and I cant get out these darn stains out of my penis I wish was circumsized so I wouldnt have this problem(lol).its an age old arguement and its fueld by religion aswell so It will be fought for a long time And you take care of your self

sarakenobi December 14 2006, 00:44:21 UTC

are you serious that you wish you were circumcised?

gaffanon December 14 2006, 13:50:51 UTC

no i wasnt serious it just one of the arguement that its cleaner to be that i was making fun of

sarakenobi December 14 2006, 13:53:14 UTC

<<< i'm so slow when I don't sleep!

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sarakenobi December 14 2006, 00:46:10 UTC

bah. it always makes me sad we aren't having a girl. Mike is not circ'd (OMGTMI) and he was all for circing the boy. but all this horrible information, including that 85% ofpediatricians do NOT use any sort of pain relief procedures when they chop the infant... makes me so sad. i just feel bad that he is out in the world and all "WTF" and then we cause excrutiating pain, you know? but at the same time, I'd like to let Mike decide :(

mrs_ladybug December 14 2006, 06:09:38 UTC

I will tell you this from all the men that I know who weren't circ'd until later in life. Do it while they are young! One friend of mine is father to two boys who will soon be preteens. He was circ'd at 15 when his parents converted but he wanted to convert too so it was his choice. He said it hurt like hell but that he didn't really look back. Yes, he'd had sex before when he was uncirc'd but he said that he liked being circ'd just not being able to remember the pain. He says that whether because the next time he had sex he was older or was now not as sensitive, he had a better time. Apparently for all the pain they did a good job. He decided, even though he's doesn't follow Islam anymore, to have his son's circ'd out of personal preference but as babies and as far as he knows, they don't remember. Did it hurt at the time, yes, but apparently they got a numbing salve for them which was more than he apparently remembers getting. Others got it done at like 8 to 11 and one at 23 but pretty much all of them said that if you are going to ( ... )

sarakenobi December 14 2006, 12:59:07 UTC

i wouldn't dream of waiting until he was older, unless he wanted to! ouch to converting LOL. i don't think anything involving cutting pieces of your body off can be considered "sissy!"

mrs_ladybug December 14 2006, 14:53:51 UTC

True enough!

jessikanesis December 14 2006, 01:41:32 UTC

I personally am for male circumcision (well actually i'm pro choice, but i think i'd do it if I had a son), even though I'm not pregant or a mother. All the men in my family have had it done, and none of them regret it. Also it's kosher, which is kind of important to me, but again, that's bringing religion into it.
My main concern is that I have a history of getting keloid scars, and I've heard horror stories (and seen pictures) of little boys who are circumcised at birth and by age six have a huge scar-growth on their penis that makes it not even resemble a penis anymore. Basically they were permanently disfigured by the scar of their circumcision, and it terrifies me that I could pass on a gene to my son that could make that happen.

jessikanesis December 14 2006, 02:21:18 UTC

damn now i'm all involved. see what you made me do? :-P

http://community.livejournal.com/pregnant/8891242.html?thread=107441770#t107534698

mrs_ladybug December 14 2006, 06:15:09 UTC

I've heard of that too. I've also heard of nipple confusion and that is way more frequent and frequently tempted. *shrug* I've seem more than my fair share of sausage, cut and uncut, I've seen uncut that were basically swallowed by too much skin and cut that looked weird but it's really rare. Hey, this is the price you pay for having all guy friends growing up, heh. Basically, if you have a decent doctor, there should be no problem. However, if you have a gene problem, then you want to be careful...are you sure that it would only happen if he was cut?

jessikanesis December 14 2006, 19:41:55 UTC

Well a keloid is a scar which keeps adding tissue even way after the wound is healed, to the point where it looks like you have a hideous tumor. So if you don't get injured, you don't get keloids, no matter your genes.

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harlequinbliss December 14 2006, 02:46:10 UTC

I hate that fight. I hate all the opinion fights though. Yes, breastfeeding is best, but why berate someone for not doing it? Yes, circ'ing might be better, but why insult someone and call them a bad parent for doing it? My boyfriend is circ'ed, as is every other guy I've ever slept with (though that isn't alot anyway). Does that make his parents uninformed and terrible?? Part of me would rather put a baby through that than a grown man. A grown man who will truly know and understand the pain he's being put through, versus an infant who will yes, cry hysterically for the time being, but probably just calm down in a little while anyway?

What difference does it make what someone else does with their child anyway? And hell, the poor girl who posted that originally was just asking what other people thought, if that would change their decision if the information was true.

mrs_ladybug December 14 2006, 06:42:20 UTC

Exactly, like the girl who posted about C-section a while back. She had a good experience and wanted to know if she was the only one. She wanted to find others like herself and I thought that was cool. Ya know, it can't always be bad and it's better to hear both sides so first timers aren't terrified and going into it thinking if they have to have one then they are a horrible failure etc. But oh no! She got posts saying that she was being insensitive, rubbing it in people's faces and other stuff. They basically bitched her out and turned it into a Section Rage party. I get that issue now and it's linked to postpartum depression but I made an attempt to say that she had a right to be happy about her situation and want to talk to others who had good ones too. I mean they look for support and commiseration in the community all the time so why be that way about it ( ... )