finding myself

Mar 14, 2005 11:59

I know a lot of people already talked about this weekend, but you can read about it again. It was a lot of fun seeing people again. Especially Claire and Laura, since I get to see them the least during the year. The Friday night concert was incredible (at least the bands that didn't suck). Even spending a half hour going nowhere in a blizzard ( Read more... )

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lovelark March 14 2005, 20:05:42 UTC
I know what you mean, in some situations.

I'm not a christian (or maybe I am, i don't know, that's not the point) But I definately know what you mean about suddenly realizing that you have values, and the people you hang out with don't share your conviction to those values...or they do, but not as much.

I remember it started in junior year, when I was like "wait a minute- I DON'T LIKE DOING THAT!"...but my friends were all "c'mon, don't be lame, it's fun!" and then I'd watch my close friends do really destrucive things, and I'd feel like I was pwoerless to stop it, and so I distanced myself. And yeah, in that respect, I sympathize completely.

Sometime,- we should talk. Not about this...about other stuff. But we should.

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varga39 March 14 2005, 21:47:30 UTC
Just because some of us aren't as devout christians as you doesn't mean we are any lesser than you. Just because we don't talk about religion as openly as you doesn't mean we aren't good people. I think you should watch how you word things you say or people, like me in this instance might be a little upset because maybe we misunderstood the meaning of what you said.

I'm glad you're a devout christian, but just because you are doesn't mean we all have to be to be friends. Who's to say any religion is the "right" religion... or what sect of that religion is the "correct" religion. I don't like be chastised by you or any person for that matter about my sins because nobody is perfect man. Sorry I'm being harsh... I think its cuz i have a really bad headache and i've been driving all day. But try to get by the harshness and into what I really mean here. Sorry if I'm not "enough" for you... I do what I can.

-john

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A more calm version of the above comment varga39 March 14 2005, 21:55:28 UTC
ok, so now that I'm a little calmer... What i'm basically trying to say is that I dont want to see you become one of those anal retentive christians who get very arrogant about their faith and religion and are actually blind to what is really going on. I see you heading down this path and I don't want that to happen. That's basically what I was trying to say in the rant above.

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mrwhippymug March 14 2005, 22:23:44 UTC
I don't think that's what I was trying to say, and I apologize for coming off as such. I'm not saying that I'm not going to be friends with people who aren't Christian, and I don't look down on anyone who isn't as devout as me. All I'm saying is that I can't have that kind of connection with those people that I can with people who are as devout as me. I know you guys are awesome people regardless of what religion you are, but I've just come to realize that having that deep religious connection is something that's really important for me to have with people, and I wish I could have it with all of my friends. I'm not putting anyone down for not being like that, I'm just talking about things I've realized. It's not a matter of not being enough of a friend, it's just a matter of not being the same kind of friend.

BTW, don't worry about apologizing for your reaction. I appreciate being able to discern your true feelings, and that's how you should respond if it makes you feel like that. No need to mask anything.

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tulsapixie March 15 2005, 03:42:19 UTC
Sorry I'm not good enough for you anymore. I do love you, but I understand that my non-christian beliefs may be a problem. My lack of similar faith does NOT make me a bad person. I do understand though, I feel like I have a different connection with my friends at school...I'm a different person now, I'm calmer, quieter (yet more outspoken), I'm much more open-minded and I swear a lot less. But I still find a connection with my friends at home...its different. Being different doesn't make it less important or worthy of the work and attention it may need to flourish though. Relationships are work, there is no way around it. Its too bad that some people will no longer, or are no longer putting the work in. It was a good run.

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karma: gods greatest irony wildirishrover March 29 2005, 03:49:24 UTC
my nonchristian beliefs will prolly cause a bigger problem lol

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fly_far_n_free March 15 2005, 04:38:50 UTC
Ok...here are my thoughts on this...Being the youngest and still growing up and sadly still in high school I've noticed all the changes in everyone the most (or so I like to think since I don't think i've changed that much). I must say I've noticed the most change in you and don't get me wrong I'm very happy you've found peace in your religion and you are happy with it and I've enjoyed the many chats we've had about it and it has helped me with my many struggles with everyone going off and planning there future. You definetly aren't the same person I met a year and a half ago and grew to love very much. In the email I sent you last night about how it was different around everyone...well I know that it wasn't just me now and I wasn't the only one sensing the "tension" in the room that night. I've had many debates with myself of whether or not to keep in touch with some people because of this. Would it cause me more pain knowing that I've finally found people I could connect with then losing that?? Well yeah I know it would and probably ( ... )

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enough of mean posts almsevl March 18 2005, 17:51:17 UTC
hey, i think this is your most brilliant post yet nick. I was just sitting down trying to catch up on things, things i have been lackin in, and i decided to read livejournals. i dont see how ppl can think that you are comming off in a power trip way, honest. i totally agree. There are certain people that bring out different aspects of ourselves, and we thrive on them. That doesn't mean they are elite or anything. We here , the 'group' from h.s. are all going to chang A LOT. and i think some people are afraid of that. Just because we go our seperate ways doesn't mean we wont still be held together by our friendship. it will be different. It's like, when i'm here, there are people that I get different things ouf of when i hang out w/ everyone else. now i realize i haven't been hanging out w/ everyone else in a while, but never the less, i charish what i get from everyone. I'm so happy for you, not mad, that you've found these friends. I didn't expect anyone to go off to college and just be miserable and meet no friends and ( ... )

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Re: enough of mean posts mrwhippymug March 27 2005, 17:52:04 UTC
hey, thanks a lot for understanding. It means a lot to know that you knew where I was coming from immediately. I really did want to hang out with you when I came back, but the only time I really had free at home was Saturday night, and I knew you were busy that night. I'm going to be coming home next weekend, so I'll try to see you then.
P.S. FLORIDA RULED!!

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My 2 cents = P almsevl April 7 2005, 06:02:57 UTC
Hey everybody ( ... )

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