Is there ever a day that goes by without some kind of Shakespeare reference??? I'm embarrassed to say that there are more days sans Shakespeare than sans Supernatural. :)
Goodness, Hamlet references in SPN? I hated Bugs too - I think that's a universal - but I'm curious why Yellow Fever is your least favorite? I take it you didn't find it funny.
Oh, no, it was hilarious. And if I'd been watching for the first time, it wouldn't have bothered me. But...
Well, watching Dean in YF was as painful as watching Brian proposing to Justin the second time, and I just can't wrap my head around the WRONG. It's canon, it happened, but damn. It takes major wankage for me to get from the guy I watched for years to the guy I saw on my screen in those episodes. I can do it, but man, it just makes my brain hurt.
And a big part of it is that I can make that comparison at all; any time QAF stuff gets out of its mental strongbox I get twitchy. *sigh*
I'm still confused. Because Dean is a complete wuss? It's out of character but at least there's an explanation for it - unlike Brian's behavior (which I found painful the first time)!
Sorry, don't mean to be thick, but I'm not following you. You're probably following up something that I didn't catch the last time around.
The only QAF-y thing that's been bothering me about SPN is Kripke's disquieting new "get the fans" writing. Just write the damn characters, I say, and leave the fandom out of the show. I'm in the minority on that, though, most people seem to find it funny.
It was Dean running away and leaving Sam to the ghost. I'd have said that was about as likely as finding a snowball in hell. And I have a lot of trouble with the explanation for Dean turning into a wuss in the first place. I think if Jensen hadn't been so over-the-top with all the cowering, it would have worked better for me.
As for the fan stuff that's making its way into the show, I don't get the feeling that it's mean-spirited the way I did with QAF. It really seems more like teasing to me; they're hitting things we've mocked about ourselves for the most part. But YMMV.
Eh. I buy Dean as Hamlet--he'd do a great Yorick scene--but I don't think this is a legitimate Shakespeare shoutout.
Sam says question is... and then asks TWO questions. Dean points that out. Exactly as if someone says, "Can I ask you a question?" and you answer, "You just did."
Hamlet asks directly, What are his weapons?, and Osric answers him directly. There is no ambiguity about the number of questions being asked: one question, one answer. There is also no implication that the response expected is limited to any particular number. Hamlet points out that Osric has named two of "his" weapons, implying there are more.
Osric could just as easily answered, "Rapier, dagger, knucklebones, salt gun, stake, and holy water," to which Hamlet could have responded, "That's six of his weapons, but well."
I don't see any relationship at all between the two scenes.
Well, considering that the SPN scene came right after a scene where Dean pulls a skull out of a grave and holds it up to look at it, I'm pretty sure I'm right. *shrug* But YMMV.
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(Now I want an icon that's an SPN/Shakespeare mashup.)
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And holy shit, some of the stuff from "In the Beginning" will totally make the Hamlet analogy work. In a weird, time-travelly kind of way.
Heh. Is there ever a day that goes by without some kind of Shakespeare reference???
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I'm embarrassed to say that there are more days sans Shakespeare than sans Supernatural. :)
Soooo, what cap?! Wanna see! :)
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Well, watching Dean in YF was as painful as watching Brian proposing to Justin the second time, and I just can't wrap my head around the WRONG. It's canon, it happened, but damn. It takes major wankage for me to get from the guy I watched for years to the guy I saw on my screen in those episodes. I can do it, but man, it just makes my brain hurt.
And a big part of it is that I can make that comparison at all; any time QAF stuff gets out of its mental strongbox I get twitchy. *sigh*
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Sorry, don't mean to be thick, but I'm not following you. You're probably following up something that I didn't catch the last time around.
The only QAF-y thing that's been bothering me about SPN is Kripke's disquieting new "get the fans" writing. Just write the damn characters, I say, and leave the fandom out of the show. I'm in the minority on that, though, most people seem to find it funny.
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As for the fan stuff that's making its way into the show, I don't get the feeling that it's mean-spirited the way I did with QAF. It really seems more like teasing to me; they're hitting things we've mocked about ourselves for the most part. But YMMV.
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Sam says question is... and then asks TWO questions. Dean points that out. Exactly as if someone says, "Can I ask you a question?" and you answer, "You just did."
Hamlet asks directly, What are his weapons?, and Osric answers him directly. There is no ambiguity about the number of questions being asked: one question, one answer. There is also no implication that the response expected is limited to any particular number. Hamlet points out that Osric has named two of "his" weapons, implying there are more.
Osric could just as easily answered, "Rapier, dagger, knucklebones, salt gun, stake, and holy water," to which Hamlet could have responded, "That's six of his weapons, but well."
I don't see any relationship at all between the two scenes.
I know, I know. Spoilsport.
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Well, it's probably easier to see if I quote accurately. Hamlet says, "What's his weapon?"
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