Why It Is Impossible to Ban Guns

[mzmadmike]

Decades later, we're still having this debate.

First, in the Heller decision, the Supreme Court stated we do have a right to keep and bear arms.  So that means, you are proposing to violate my civil rights.  That's a dead end issue right there.  If you're trying to find ways to violate my rights only to a certain degree in certain ways, you have to

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[hlwoods]

Here's my counter proposal.

Let's stop glorifying the murderers. Let's keep them off page 1. If you must describe the event on page 1, use it to describe the victims.

Let's deny the glory that these murderers crave.

It may not stop the first one, but it doesn't offer nearly as much satisfaction to the copy cats.

[mzmadmike]

Yup. Just denying them recognition would go a long way.

Or recognize them after their grave is repeatedly desecrated by the outraged.

[maineshark]

Plus, if one of their intended victims takes them out, that's not the story they want to create. But the media won't tell that story.

Did you know that there was another mass shooting, just a few days before the one in CT? Happened in a mall in Oregon.

The shooter (whose name I have intentionally forgotten) managed to kill two and wound a third, before he saw a bystander by the name of Nick Meli (his name's worth remembering) draw his sidearm. Rather than be wounded and captured, the shooter ducked into a stairwell and gave his rifle a blowjob.

But you're not going to hear about that one on the news, most likely...

[hlwoods]

Nah. But I get most of my news from the internet nowadays. On the one hand, an echo chamber. On the other hand, I have heard of Nick Meli, and admired him.

There was also the one where a gunman goes into a restaurant, then herds his victims into a theatre, before an off duty deputy sheriff plugs him. Don't recall the deputy's name, though.

[mzmadmike]

http://amodestpublication.wordpress.com/2009/05/08/loyalist-paramilitary-improvised-machine-guns/ case in point

[coldservings]

The US army has a training manual on improvised weapons, including firearms and explosives.

It's available online.

I have it in PDF.

[septithol]

So, what is this that I hear that some father of one of the children killed in Newport has now gone crying to the NRA to help him keep America's children safe? I'm pretty sure that keeping America's children safe is not, in fact, actually what he wants. When people actually want to keep themselves, others, or various objects safe, what they do is guard them with guns. Which I'm pretty sure this man does not actually want, what he really wants, but isn't saying, is that he wants the NRA to cooperate with a goal which is actually contrary to keeping children safe, and to support laws making it harder for ordinary people to get guns, and protect children with them.

And frankly, being as obsessed with grammar and words as I am, I grow increasingly weary with the idiots of the world who claim verbally or in writing to want some particular admirable goal, when what they really want is something else entirely, which at best, is irrelevent to their claimed goal, and more often, is actually opposite to their claimed goal.