More Hilarity Regarding Magazine Bans

[mzmadmike]

I need to keep mentioning this because it's important:  If you aren't well-trained in a subject, it's dangerous and foolish to try to legislate it.  Consider all the internet "equality" and "freedom" and "safety" acts to come out of Congress.

One of the items during so-called "Assault Weapon Ban," is being bandied about for renewal-a ban on "high

Comments

[jmaynard]

Damn. Krauthammer just revealed himself as a phony conservative.

[mzmadmike]

"Just"? He said that in 1994.

[jeffreyab]

So what are the arguments against grandfathering?

So that no one outside of police or military can own a high capacity magazine?

[_eljefe_]

You mean standard capacity magazine.

[mzmadmike]

Against grandfathering? You'd have to account for untold billions of magazines, and the gov't would have to pay fair market value, per that pesky 5th Amendment.

If you want to do it for guns, I covered that in a previous post--AR15s alone would cost the USG $18 billion.

Given that in the leadup to legislation, the market value would skyrocket, the day they chose as "value day" would likely mean a tripling of that. Possibly more.

Oh, of course there's that pesky 2nd Amendment and a SCOTUS ruling that says it does in fact apply to modern guns and they are a Constitutionally protected right.

Other than that, nothing, really.

[septithol]

Mike, from what I can tell, most adults nowadays are completely infantile in the way they think. Why this is, I'm not sure, because I'll be the first one to admit that I, myself, am probably stuck at the level of a 12 year old in a lot of ways. I thought for a long time that everyone else grew up and I didn't. Now I don't think they grew up at all, why most people seem to be more functional in a career sense than me I can't tell, but they have absolutely no sense of responsibility and insist on engaging in 'magical' thinking (in a political and economic, not metaphysical sense

[septithol]

(continued from previous post) I forget how much energy Leinster said was available to people in the mid 20-th century, however I'm pretty sure of 3 things

[maineshark]

Actually, you don't have to compare things to Africa. The "poverty line" in America, would be middle class in Europe, last I heard.

[septithol]

Actually, you don't have to compare things to Africa. The "poverty line" in America, would be middle class in Europe, last I heard. Which simply shows that the Obamanation is good at bullshitting and those who support him are idiots who don't bother to think about the real world results (vs the magical world where pesky things like the laws of physics don't exist) of what Obama proposes. I don't imagine if Obama got behind a microphone and flat out stated that he intended to lower the lifestyle of middle class Americans to that of those currently on welfare, and that those already on welfare could expect their lifestyle to get even suckier than that, that he would have very many supporters

[maineshark]

"Which simply shows that the Obamanation is good at bullshitting and those who support him are idiots who don't bother to think about the real world results (vs the magical world where pesky things like the laws of physics don't exist) of what Obama proposes."

That's actually been the case for quite a while. The first time that I heard the statistic was under Clinton.

"As for Christopher Krauthammer, who thinks that the US should emulate European democracies, in disarming the citizens, does he mention how that worked out for the Jews in Nazi Germany? Or does he conveniently forget little factiods such as Hitler being voted into office? Or are 'European Democracies' only those countries that have conditions that he likes, and those that have conditions he doesn't like are somehow magically not 'European Democracies'."

Or he suffers from "that can't happen here"-ism. "That was in the past. Humans are more evolved now. Except anyone who opposes me... they're Neanderthals who we need to exterminate."

"Gun control freaks seem to be

[septithol]

Maineshark wrote