Chapter 686: People who left and people who leave something

Jul 25, 2014 14:18

Even after reading the chapter I am not sure what the heck the title means. Anyway, spoilers and large images below the cut!

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geekgirl62 July 25 2014, 18:53:04 UTC
"What's the Gudoudama?" The black spheres that Naruto can control. This is how he tricked Kaguya into thinking the clone was the real him. He controlled the orbs so that they surrounded one of his clones ( ... )

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subieko July 26 2014, 03:43:29 UTC
Ohhhh, the spheres. Thanks, that makes more sense now.

Ah, yeah, the mangastream translation makes much more sense--I guess it refers to Kakashi and Obito trying to sacrifice themselves, and how one will stay alive and one pass on.

Was that meant to be a flashback? I honestly wasn't sure whether they were both just remembering a time when Rin was tugging them forward, or if it meant that like...her spirit was helping them or something. It was a really nicely drawn panel though. The sacrifice scene didn't do much for me but a lot of the sequence looked really good and dramatic at least.

Hm, I thought Obito would die for sure just because he's been on the verge of death for so long, but yeah...after we saw Naruto bring Gai back from what looked like certain death, I guess anything is possible! Man, it'll be kind of weird if Neji is the only named character to actually die in this battle.

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geekgirl62 July 26 2014, 11:55:26 UTC
Not a flash back per se, but more like seeing the "white light" before you die. Saying she is a spirit guiding them to the afterlife? I like that imagery too.

Oh no, the Neji fans won't be happy if that happens.

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senior_witch July 25 2014, 21:29:35 UTC
Thanks for the review, and for pointing out all the inconsistencies. I must admit that I got stuck at an even earlier point, namely when Kagura's swords miss the boys because of gravity. Would this not mean that the swords are aimed too low instead of too high?

I did not much bother about the tree climbing scene. I think there's situations where a good teacher just remains silent and lets the students find the solution by themselves, because when he tells them how to find it step by step they don't learn what's really important: finding a way themselves.

I mostly bother about Kakashi's failure to bond with his students and care for them.

(When the story started I thought he was cool, but now I think he's a douchebag.)

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subieko July 26 2014, 03:57:14 UTC
Yeah, I was going to comment on gravity somehow making a sword miss, but then I was like...I don't know anything about physics so I don't actually know if that's possible or not. But yeah, I would think gravity getting really strong would make the sword fall short rather than go crooked. And, in the panel, it looked like the swords were in the right spot but Naruto and Sasuke dodged, so...I have no idea ( ... )

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other_cat August 2 2014, 03:37:29 UTC
I think "teaching" in the Narutoverse is a lot different then our ideas of teaching. It seems to be a lot of hands on trial and error on the part of the student. Don't forget how little guidance Naruto got from Jiraiya when learning the rasengan. And we won't even talk about throwing your student over a cliff to see if he can summon a large enough toad to save him, because, of course, when you're falling off a cliff the first think you think is "gee, if only I had a frog, everything would be OK." Even Asuma, who probably gave Naruto the most direct, implicit instruction we've seen, would only do so because Naruto was going to buy lunch for his team. Anyway, it seems ninja are supposed to figure most of their chakra usage on their own. It makes sense in a way. Your failures may lead to other discoveries, and you're going to be a better ninja (if you survive) if you're able to think things through on your own. I think one of the defining moments of Kakashi's teaching was when they left Konoha for the first time and Naruto was poisoned. ( ... )

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