Смельчаки

[nefedor]

Я и не сомневался, что наука нынче такая. Смелые люди решили это показать всем. Смелые они. Но этот паровоз все равно не остановишь: люди всегда хотят то, что хочется, а не то, что истинно.

https://www.bbc.com/russian/features-45751968

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[tandem_bike]

yes, great fun.

i just told Xaxam that in medicine, things are not much better. but we tolerate the noise for the sake of the good stuff thsat comes through,,

[nefedor]

The bad thing is that information-to-noise ratio is constantly declining...

[deep_econom]

***Я и не сомневался, что наука нынче такая.

инфляция ) и деградация
капитализмус, говно вытесняет хорошее во всем, все виды деятельности как рынки "лимонов" (привет Акерлофф-у)

[nefedor]

Деградация, да, причём во всем. Скоро ведьмаков жечь будем,... да собственно, уже...

[misha_b]

Yes, on one hand the signal to noise ratio is getting worse. On the other, we are witnessing amazing technological progress.

[nefedor]

Yes on both counts, and the shift to the technology (from abstract science) is another sign of the dark ages where technologies never stopped developing. The famous example is Islamic culture which needed the way to find the right direction to pray hence the boost in applicable science. At the same time you dare not to say the Sun is not orbiting the Earth ;)

[misha_b]

I don't see it that way. It is true that there is less public trust in science than there used to be but I don't see it as a dark ages at all. t

The signal to noise ratio seems a rather orthogonal problem to me. In fact (at least in my area), it is a consequence of too much (not properly digested) success.

[nefedor]

I agree - dark ages are not yet here but still are ahead of us since we’re moving this direction. And it’s not only the public trust, it’s the science itself too.

And one of the main reasons is exactly as you noted - indigestion. Too much information makes it impossible to digest properly and establish proper connections to other areas. Plus, weaker demand, lack of control, fuzzy foundations, too much politics etc.