Review and incomprehension: The Taming of the Shrew

Jul 20, 2008 15:27

Yesterday I went to see the RSC perform the Taming of the Shrew in Stratford upon Avon. It was played uncut, very straight, and performed extremely well with all the characters being more than understandable. At a technical level I would therefore have to give it full marks. I have just one basic question about the performance ( Read more... )

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herringprincess July 20 2008, 16:43:58 UTC
far more so than The Taming of the Shrew
I assume you mean The Merchant of Venice?

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herringprincess July 20 2008, 17:24:54 UTC
Know the feeling. Just thought I should point it out in case someone read it and went huh? :-)

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herringprincess July 20 2008, 17:07:33 UTC
I'm with you. I've never really got on with that play. I think what I find difficult is the humour - I'm quite a fan of black comedy but the humour in tTotS is more sort of.... haha isn't it horrible. Which doesn't really do it for me.

The only way I can make sense of it is as more to do with Domestic Discipline than sexual BDSM. Katharina clearly needed something to sort her out and what it took was someone who's more of a bastard than she is bitch. But that still makes me feel uncomfortable, because Petruchio needs something to sort him out too. And there's no evidence that their relationship has made him a better (or, frankly, less odd) person. In that time, the phrase 'safe, sane, and consensual' may not have been in use, but anyone should be able to see that Petruchio is not a stable enough person to be allowed that kind of control over someone 'in their best interests.'

So yeah. I am still hoping one day I will see a performance of it that makes everything suddenly clear.

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neonchameleon July 21 2008, 11:08:56 UTC
But that still makes me feel uncomfortable, because Petruchio needs something to sort him out too.

I'd say that Petruchio needs far more to sort him out than Kate. Kate may have been vicious, but it seemed the viciousness of a child rather than deliberate in quite the way of Petruchio.

or, frankly, less odd

What's wrong with oddness?

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herringprincess July 21 2008, 13:11:13 UTC
Petruchio needs far more to sort him out than Kate
Agreed. Have you seen The Tamer Tamed, out of interest?

There's 'unconventional' odd and 'keep him away from me' odd :-P

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neonchameleon July 21 2008, 14:07:51 UTC
Have you seen The Tamer Tamed, out of interest?

Alas, no.

There's 'unconventional' odd and 'keep him away from me' odd :-P

I'd have said that the trouble was that Petruchio was a sadistic sociopath rather than that he was odd. I like quite a lot of odd people and have an emotional reaction to odd being used as a slur along the lines of the one I have to "Black", "Jew", or other such terms.

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sea_bright July 20 2008, 23:39:34 UTC
I'm wholly in agreement that the original version is just disturbing ( ... )

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livredor July 21 2008, 05:24:28 UTC
There is an awful lot of comedy and entertainment around seeing a weaker person humiliated and abused. An awful lot. Is laughing at Petrucchio destroying Kate so much less comprehensible than a comedian pretending to sexually assault a woman as part of his act? I don't think it's BDSM, I think it's dehumanizing someone in order to be able to enjoy a psychodrama of cruelty. Shakespearean audiences attended public executions for entertainment; seeing a woman literally tortured into submission, when they knew it was just acting and in the context of a play full of witty banter, must have seemed pretty tame by comparison.

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neonchameleon July 21 2008, 11:26:47 UTC
There is an awful lot of comedy and entertainment around seeing a weaker person humiliated and abused. An awful lot.

I know. It's one reason I can't stand e.g. Little Britain. (And I understand the appeal of it).

Is laughing at Petrucchio destroying Kate so much less comprehensible than a comedian pretending to sexually assault a woman as part of his act?

Yes (bad as your example is). At least if you empathise with the characters when you watch. There are limits to the comedian example. Although in other ways it is worse because it involves a real person.

Shakespearean audiences attended public executions for entertainment; seeing a woman literally tortured into submission, when they knew it was just acting and in the context of a play full of witty banter, must have seemed pretty tame by comparison.

A very good point. :-)

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anonymous April 19 2009, 10:28:40 UTC
Yeah. I enjoy acting in Shakespeare plays a great deal but would refuse to take part in Shrew unless the text was changed. The whole thing just leaves a nasty taste in my mouth.

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Doh! strangederby2 April 19 2009, 10:50:56 UTC
Sorry forgot to log in there.

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