A... huge post. No worries if -no one- gets through it. ^^;

Nov 27, 2006 19:03

All right, so the past few days for me have been the epitome of nifty; and not just for the Holiday. The aftermath was also excellent, and continues to be, with all credit going to the people who made it so. I promise I’ll write a huge, doting entry on it soon enough (for… my own satisfaction, as I’m sure no one needs any more of my Super Sized ( Read more... )

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morninglow November 27 2006, 23:20:53 UTC
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thats all i have to say to you

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nerdraeg November 28 2006, 00:07:02 UTC
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(Our conversations have become as deep as Ed and Al's in the Full Metal Games. 'Dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot.')

Well, I did say I'd repost it, however embarrassing and entirely unfitting of character for us -both-.

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morninglow November 28 2006, 00:32:33 UTC
this is true. im hungry.

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nerdraeg November 28 2006, 00:34:08 UTC
Don't you keep a sandwhich in your pocket?

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psychelock November 28 2006, 00:06:46 UTC
>>“No, I will not ask my mom to visit a sex shop to pick up handcuffs!” …It’s best not to ask.

*asks*

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nerdraeg November 28 2006, 00:11:02 UTC
*Sighs.( Er- most obviously I should -not- have put that in the entry, as it is distracting people, huh?)

The handcuffs, for the Light/L cosplay. Madi suggested... one of those shops to look for them. And myself, being the Head Regent of Prudence, decided that no, I would not be looking up any shops of that nature to find handcuffs. So, joking obviously, Madi told me to ask my mother to do so for me.

And... voila. Quote. I just thought I'd share my blustering humiliation with everyone. Er- apparently... ^^;

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psychelock November 28 2006, 00:14:42 UTC
I see! Just ask Brandon to do it. He bought handcuffs as a gag gift for one of our friends a few Christmas's ago. :P

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nerdraeg November 28 2006, 00:18:56 UTC
I- I think then entire -concept- of visiting that kind of a place (um... not degrading it, just not my sort of hang out ^^;) was more or less a joke. Party City should have a pair. We tried Ebay, but they were all... either fuzzy, or had David Hasselhoff on them. *HeadDesk.*

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nerdraeg November 28 2006, 00:59:31 UTC
Ask him; he may have.

Josh and I discuss many things, from the very asinine, to his plans for world domination, to my plans to get sleep, to… math.

Yes, yes, we did. Glad it at least made someone smile, in that case.

And clearly, it depends what kind of pie we’re talking here.

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nerdraeg November 28 2006, 01:29:51 UTC
Free Will… Free Will, in my opinion, can never really become a ‘cliché’ topic of discussion… because it’s essentially the debate on the basis of everything we do, isn’t it ( ... )

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deralte November 28 2006, 01:29:23 UTC
Re: Alchemy. Read The Pyrotechnia. It was written during the Renaissance by a guy who wandered around and got eyewitness accounts of all the metal working processes people were working on at the time. It has accounts of things like advanced working cannons and stuff several centuries before they were officially "invented".

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nerdraeg November 28 2006, 01:32:26 UTC
I've actually read passages from the book. In earnest, it’s very remarkable; Alchemy took two great turns. One, a dive into the beginnings of chemistry, and the other becoming a lingo of philosophy. I can point you to a wonderful site, if you'd like to peruse some 16/17/18th century texts in your spare time. ^_^ You seem as if you've studied this area, so you should have no problem 'getting' what's being spoke of. Please just say so if you’d be interested!

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deralte November 28 2006, 01:43:49 UTC
I did a whole course on this topic (Experimental Archaeology) and ended up writing my essay on the evolution of smelting techniques around the world. I may have already seen most of the texts, but sure, link away:)

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nerdraeg November 28 2006, 01:51:24 UTC
I'll be sure and get it to you shortly. If you have any of your work, I'd more then love to see it. It's my top field (rather) of interest. :)

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heerojf November 28 2006, 01:43:32 UTC
A plant can be green. That symbolizes science.

The act of actually saying "this plant is green", that is mathematics.

To a degree, I'm saying what you were also suggesting: math is a language used to describe the world around us, i.e. to describe science, which IS the world around us.

However, I don't consider math a mere tool slightly more useful than a bunsen burner. Because I strongly believe that math can explain everything in science. Even chaos theory. If a neural signal is nearly a synapse, about to make its jump, which receptor it's going to anchor onto could be calculated based on its angle and velocity of approach. Nobody's going to bother to do that, of course, but that's the essence of chaos theory: it's mathematical calculations too convoluted for our human minds to wrap around all the variables involved. But the point is that it's technically possible to explain everything with math even if it's too complicated to warrant the effort ( ... )

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nerdraeg November 28 2006, 01:56:10 UTC
Mm, firstly, I’m very sorry you took that line too seriously; it was meant to add a bit of humor, only. Math is the most important tool of science, in my estimation, second to perhaps sheer curiosity.

It becomes an interesting conundrum at this point, if we agree that math is, in essence, a implement devised by people for means of explaining science to themselves, and yet, to then still be able to assume (and dare I say, agree) that there are principles that can be explained by math, but are beyond the outer limits of our understanding. (Also, thank you for the wonderful example using chaos theory. I admit, I do not have the most well-informed approach to that subject, and it gave me clarification as well as food for thought.)

I think you have stated this all beautifully, and I’m very grateful for such well-thought out feedback. :) I have surprisingly little to add to what I was very much trying to get across, case and point, on my own.

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heerojf November 28 2006, 03:39:52 UTC
Oh don't worry! I was in no way offended by the comment. I knew you were using it as an amusing example. And to that effect, I have nothing against bunsen burners the world over ( ... )

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nerdraeg November 28 2006, 23:19:14 UTC
I believe this is where science begins to skirt 'faith'. Is there really nothing in this world, whatever 'this' world is... (and it's been a long standing theory of mine that we are merely the protons of our earthly atom, in a sea of atoms, makeup of some much larger creature... XD Sci-Fi Channel, here I come?)... that cannot, if one was given the right tools of deduction... be entirely predicted? What about the very forces that run these equations, that 'made' them 'truth'? Or, is anyone so capable of riddling out and fathoming every asset of science a 'true God', capable of chaos theory... or... are they just as bound, and made helpless by these laws?

A few random ruminations of my own. I -did- leave this open, as a forum, to -anybody-, yourself included. So, your own self willing, and time permitting for you, if you have your own thoughts and feel the bustle to share them-- please, in this case, do not feel the need to hesitate. If you "have a whole lot to say", you are welcome to. I don't mind the clutter.

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