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[new_iconoclast]

So - based largely on the deplorable record of a Republican who was not a conservative, a Democrat becomes President while running on a slogan of "change" - while not proposing one single new idea that hasn't been hashed and rehashed by liberal Dems since FDR. Not one

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[jimp220]

Repuplicrats or Democans. Doesn't matter. They are all about tax and spend, the only difference is who they allow to suck at the public money teat.

Things need to get really bad. I mean Road Warrior, Grapes of Wrath, a Boy and his Dog, Night of the Living Dead bad. Then maybe it will either all be over for US as a nation or the pathetic parasite weaklings that have been milking this country dry will all be killed off and what/who remains will make our founding fathers proud of us.

Every now and then the roots of the tree of Liberty needs to be nourished with the blood of patriots and tyrants.

A couple changes you might have overlooked

[virginiadare]

Respectfully, because we don't need to agree for me to hear what you said:
1. A huge voter turnout, a change
2. A president elect that the world community loves, to help heal our international breaches
3. An african-american president

These are all big changes.

I concede that Barack Obama has not accomplished much during his political career. However, when I see the huge crowds he draws and listen to his rhetoric I think that he is the perfect person to occupy the oval office. In this media age an intelligent, patriotic, consensus building thoughtful leader is just what this country needs.

I'm not depressed, I'm thrilled.

Re: A couple changes you might have overlooked

[sugarbeet]

All very good points

Re: A couple changes you might have overlooked

[_katiekaboom_]

A good candidate should inspired people and not simply be the lessor of the evils. Obama has certainly done that.

Hitler inspired people, and they thought him to be better than the lesser of two evils. Big deal. He's still a piece of shit. There are a million inspirational people out there. The words they say should make more of a difference.

Re: A couple changes you might have overlooked

[jimp220]

Not to be un-American or anything, but I welcome and apprecitate opposing view points that are succinct and well crafted. Well said.

[astroprisoner]

...I voted for Bob Barr. In Minnesota, that has roughly the same impact as writing myself in.

Maybe more impact than you think. Check your state's election laws.

Ballot slots in many states hinge entirely on how many votes the candidate for that party got in the previous election. There's no "law" that says Democrats and Republicans are always on the ballot, in a lot of cases it's simply a result that in the previous election so many people voted that way.

As for the rest of the candidates (like Barr), they get on only if they can get through a difficult process of ballot petition. (It's intentionally difficult, the Democrats and Republicans may not agree on much but they agree that there shouldn't be any more competition.)

Funny thing how that part of the process never gets clearly explained to us...

If the Libertarians are on the ballot in the next election in MN, it's only because you and a bunch of other people opted to vote that way last night.

Good job.

You should be grateful

[albatross]

We're not stupid out here you know. Nobody with any common sense sees Obama as anything but a political centrist, a cautious, thoughtful politician. He'll try to address some of this mess that the Bush Administration has made of the nation, but he'll be hampered all the way by partisan Republicans and rabid ideologues

Re: You should be grateful

[new_iconoclast]

Well-spoken - and as you know, I know you're anything but stupid. (Insert silly pun, if you can think of one. ;))

I expect to see good things from Obama in some of those areas. But I also expect to see a selective approach in which some parts of the Constitution - the Second Amendment, for example, of which he has consistently been a strong opponent, and the Tenth - are ignored for the "sake of the greater good." In other words, let's "Change" back to the policies of the Johnson Administration and "Hope" that it actually works this time.

Since I am not a liberal Democrat and I view government as a drag on economic expansion and an immoral, inefficient, and ineffective agent of social change, I'd have rather seen a liberal Republican and a Democratic Congress than see a Democratic President and Congress with a solid majority. The first blunts McCain's possible impact; the second magnifies Obama's in all kinds of potentially harmful ways.

Re: You should be grateful

[albatross]

Well after thirty years of so-called "small government" politics, I'd say that ideology has been aired as much as it ever is going to be. Like the "pro-life" movement, they are Republican talking points which after thirty years of repetition it is clear will never actually be implemented by Republicans