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sundayave April 16 2010, 00:53:15 UTC
Hey, LJ staff, no word on you lot introducing a new ~driving revenue~ script that redirects people's links through outboundlink.net AGAIN? I would like an explanation and why does it affect EVERY LINK EVER on EVERY LJ PAGE EVER on only HOVERING the damn link? I'm confused, and it scared the hell out of me as I had no idea what were all those scripts loaded on my flist, I thought someone had spammed a community.

I've already blocked it obvs. PEOPLE, GET FIREFOX AND ADBLOCK AND NOSCRIPT, THEN GO AROUND BLOCKING EVERY NON-USEFUL LJ SCRIPT. There you go, done my bit!

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anti_aol April 18 2010, 02:56:53 UTC
Yeah, that's exactly what did it for me, too. I was cool until the moment I learned of it (in the comments to an LJ News post, of all places, since LJ refuses to officially discuss it anywhere on the site)...then I was just shaking my head like, "wtf?". I had no plans to leave LJ - in fact, I was pretty satisfied with how things were, overall - until that moment, but once I started reading through those comments, and testing the Javascript on my journals to see what it did (just as advertised) I knew I'd be leaving as soon as I could. I guess I have this almost subconscious underlying feeling that LJ isn't good enough for me, anyway, so maybe that's what drove me on. It's strange how those things work out.

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clair_de_lune April 17 2010, 20:26:05 UTC
We believe it's been thoroughly tested and works correctly now.
It works? Then why does LJ - and my paid account - lag every time I click or right-click a link or even in the middle of the page?

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lafinjack April 18 2010, 02:00:09 UTC
...it's abundantly clear that LJ's management gets confused by anything with more than one syllable.

I think you mean anything in English.

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anti_aol April 19 2010, 04:02:33 UTC
I know what you mean. In Russia, LiveJournal owns YOU.

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foxfirefey April 18 2010, 21:53:23 UTC
This counter-jab could use some work--it has two big weak spots:

* service running smoothly -- This part of the comparison makes it seem like LiveJournal has been running smoothly, but it hasn't lately. It doesn't help that the links script itself has been giving people lag while browsing when they try to click on links, and thus decreases the smoothness of running for some people. So, maybe focus away from running smoothly, and more on the availability of capital and paid staff to solve the hard problems that come from actually having a large userbase--that's something DW can't match right now. It helps that the link script is relatively easy for a viewer to escape.

* organize "donation drives" -- The airquotes here make it seem like donation drive is the dubious terminology used by Dreamwidth, but DW used the term "fundraiser" and is talking about encouraging people to buy services (or points that can be converted to paid services), which are technically not donations. In order to bolster up this portion, you need to put the " ( ... )

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anti_aol April 19 2010, 03:57:47 UTC
Amazing that DW looking to make any money to run their operation makes you think of them as "unstable" but when LJ takes steps like it has been taking as discussed in this thread to basically "force" money out of our journals you have no problem with that. That doesn't look desperate or anything. Right. OK. Also, I (anti-aol) was on a great server compared to the free users and and still I experienced anything but smooth service over the last four years, so, lots of downtime - I get emailed reports from RoyalPingdom on when anti-aol goes down and I have 5 reports from last week alone - down 5 times, about 10-15 minutes each time. In ONE day alone. And yeah, I know, pics or it didn't happen? For real. Pics, if you like, because it did happen. But thanks for sharing!

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anti_aol April 19 2010, 16:53:06 UTC
I, however, can and want to only spend so much on one type of online activity, so I really prefer link hijacking and ads for freeloading users (i.e. ways that don't reach into my pocket).

See, that's exactly why I don't care if LJ hijacks your free journals or not, as I stated myself in an earlier comment. Serves you right for not wanting to help support LJ. They have got to make money somehow. And they have every right to.Free users overwhelmingly have this "you owe us the stars moon and sun" attitude and in all honesty, I like seeing it punished accordingly. Maybe I'm a bit of a sadist in that sense, but I supported the site all along and I'm not sorry I did. I'm only sorry to see that LJ fucked me in spite of that. Free users? Whatever ( ... )

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marahmarie April 19 2010, 17:59:12 UTC
You're taking it all out of context, dear little sunflower. DW ran low in the war chest only because they had to stop accepting PayPal payments months ago over some nanny group that went to war with them over them supposedly hosting porn on the site. I think the exact accusation was child porn. It was unfounded, if I recall correctly, but either way, PayPal didn't want to hear that. They made a bunch of demands that DW only host kiddy-safe content so DW politely (extreme paraphrase warning) told them, more or less, to blow off. In the meantime, DW had no payment processing system, so they went *several months* unable to collect payments from any users at all, except by cash or check. Are you happy now? Jesus Christ.

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READ. marahmarie April 19 2010, 18:08:18 UTC
http://dw-news.dreamwidth.org/16590.html

I cannot stand people twisting facts out of context. There is nothing worse than that except out-and-out lying, and you are pushing it.

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marahmarie April 19 2010, 19:19:40 UTC
Here's what ladysunflow (my dear little sunflower!) wrote this time seconds before deleting it, like the little coward (he/she?) is:

Subject: Re: READ.
I have read that, blinsided little marie. I'm not sure however if you've read the two first sentences I quoted in the comment above. Let me quote again: We'd already been running in the red from month to month, and the past few months have seen some additional expenses over and above the usual.

Kisses to you and your DW holy grail.Get this through your pretty and quite useless little head, sun, 'cause I know you're still reading these comments ( ... )

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