Release 88 sneak peek, Mashable Awards nomination, Holiday promotions, ONTD Games

[news]

December 14th, 2011 - Happy December Holidays and welcome to the official LiveJournal newsletter! Bringing you system updates, community events, and other newsworthy nuggets from the world of LiveJournal. Here's a look at what's news on and around LJ:

Release 88 sneak peek
Our final site update of the year, Release 88, is scheduled to go live

Comments

[markf]

It is not deleted data, it just isn't displayed when using non-customized/site-scheme commenting.

All data is preserved, and will display if the journal/community you're viewing has an S2 style with customized comment pages enabled (http://www.livejournal.com/customize/options.bml)

Alternately, if your own journal has customized comment pages enabled, http://www.livejournal.com/manage/settings/?cat=display has options for viewing other journals & comment pages in your own style to circumvent this.

[nobel_berserker]

As many people have informed you, people who are looking at entries which require organization by subject line use the basic / S1 style, not the S2 style.

You have dozens of customers who are threatening to withdraw thousands of dollars in business from your website unless you allow us to keep subject lines in the S1 / basic style--or as the poster above me suggests, something that looks like it and won't break the page if there are long threads. I've already registered my opinion on igrick's entry, this news post, and with the official LiveJournal feedback form and it's becoming plainer and plainer that the staff is incapable of understanding our complaints.

As much as I respect LiveJournal for continuously fighting to remain online for Russian political bloggers, your complete cluelessness re: customer service makes it impossible for me to justify renewing my account.

[patentpending]

They are not incapable. It's been stated plainly over and over what the issue is here, they simply don't care and are going to do what they want to do because they want to do. Although I have a feeling that because it's the Russians who are in charge of these changes, there is nothing they can really do on their end about it anyway.

[unholynotions]

As much as I respect LiveJournal for continuously fighting to remain online for Russian political bloggers, your complete cluelessness re: customer service makes it impossible for me to justify renewing my account.

I don't want to say "this," but this.

A friend of mine once had thirteen paid accounts on LJ and now has let the last of hers expire. I think at one point I had ten. Honestly, if it weren't for some of the things that have been on LJ for longer than DW has existed that are too massive to migrate, I would've left entirely months ago.

It kills me that way back when Six Apart bought the service we were all so up in arms about how this was going to screw us in the long run and it turns out that we were right.

[el1ie]

Wait, I don't read any comments in any custom style - even my own, I always, always read in the default, especially long posts or fic. Are you saying that default pages are style 1 pages and once this rolls out on Tuesday all subject lines will disappear for me?

Tell me I'm wrong, or you're kidding!

Try navigating the huge fandom auctions, like help_japan or help_haiti - that raised thousands of dollars for people in real need - without subject lines and see how much sense it makes.

So basically I'm screwed come Tuesday?

[kalichai]

Yeah, no. Most comms use S1 style because it's the most readable and doesn't glitch when threads get too long. Requiring them to use the S2 styles, which can be less accessible and buggy ruins basic function for the comms. Leave the default style alone, it's supposed to be the one easiest for everybody to read and load and not only does taking away subject lines ruin organization and accessibility for many communities but it can also make the site practically unusable for those with slower connections.

If you're that dedicated to this change, why not make it an optional S3 style instead of breaking the default?

[shinywhimsy]

this. so much this. soooooo much this.

[nalina]

Apparently you've missed the memo, despite NUMEROUS people telling you guys...

How many comms do you see using custom comment pages? Here's the answer: Next to none. We like the default comment page for it's simplicity and the way it deals with mass numbers of comments. Most custom pages cannot handle massive numbers of comments. They usually break the layout.

And, in fact, a lot of normal people's journals turn them off too.

So this "It's okay! S2 will still have them!" nonsense is utterly USELESS. You're delusional if you think this will placate us.

[bluespring]

Please provide me with a way to prevent customized comment pages from freaking out when threads get really long.

I
refuse
to
try
to
read
a
comment
that
looks
like
this
because
S2
has
decided
the
comment
needs
to
be
zero
pixels
wide.

[florahart]

plus one, and also, even when it DOESN'T do that, I dunwanna tolerate other people's wacky ideas about how they want their comment pages arranged. This is WHY I VIEW ALL COMMENT PAGES IN THE SITE SCHEME. :|

[frostandfrogs]

Please I am beseeching you. Do not take subject lines from S1 comments.

Please.

[grey_bard]

We're begging you here, DO NOT DO THIS. No one uses personalized comment pages, knows how to, or wants to. We just want to keep subject lines. Is this so much to ask?

[dizzily]

I'm sure this comment will fall on deaf ears (or blind eyes, if you would), but have you thought about your visually-impaired users at all?

Many of the S2 styles are, quite frankly, eyesores. As someone who wears glasses, and whose eyesight isn't the greatest even with them, I always use the default style because it's the easiest on my eyes. With the default style I don't have to squint, or highlight text before its readable, or worry about loud background images or blinding colors. It's easy and it's simple, and I would really hate to have to give that up just so I could continue seeing subject lines.

yes

[moeism]

Plus motherfucking 1. I have terrible, terrible eyesight and almost all the S2 styles make reading and following comments/threads extremely difficult (especially when the comment box gets smaller and smaller further down the page, and the background images and colors don't exactly help either), not to mention a huge nuisance.

This.

[track_04]

My eyesight's not even that terrible and I have trouble with the custom comments sometimes. I can't imagine trying to view them with zoom text or something similar.